With auto repair, beautology, horticulture, sales & marketing, festival
coordination, ironwork, carpentry, ceramics, concrete & block, bricklaying,
roof & chimney, plumbing, bike repair, light rail engineer, appliance
repair, smoke police, chauffering (designated driver pool), tailor, baker,
cooper, fletcher, carter, potter, walker, eisenhower, ...,and all other
offshoots one might conjure up, you'd need a place the size of a brewery to
fit it all in.


AMH
Ranfort Crossroads


Andrew M. Hine
Corporate Research Materials Laboratory
3M Center 201-1W-28
St. Paul MN
55144-1000
USA

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I will take this on.  I feel quite strongly, having been educated in
Canadian schools that we are making a huge mistake if we are not providing
a trade track in high schools right alongside the academic track, and here
is  why I say this.

We have been focusing so much on trying to get ALL students to go on to a
four year college, even students that do not want to necessarily do this.
I think we should focus more on getting them interested in some type of
education beyond high school, but there are clearly students that would be
more cut out for opportunities that are more trade related and do not
require a four year college degree,

Let's face it, not all students want to go the four year route to a
successful job.

When I went to school in Canada in Edmonton, Alberta, we had opportunities
for both in the public school system, and many students had the pleasure
of learning basic office skills such as word processing, shorthand, and
others learned drafting, auto mechanics, and still others Beauty Culture
and our high school allowed for having your car repaired by a class
learning to make repairs, and you could set up an appointment with the
Beauty School to have your hair cut and styled and even permed or colored
at  reduced rate, by students that were learning their trade.

One of the students that cut my hair all through high school left and got
a job with a salon near by, and within two years had her own salon and
ended up finding success in this area.

I say that we need all students to focus on passing the BST's however, if
we get this accomplished in the elementary grades, where these basics
should be engrained, students should be able to choose the future
education track they wish to.

Harding is a great example of where there is a fully functioning printing
business and students in graphic arts that have interest in the printing
business can get the experience they need to move right into the workplace
upon graduation.

In a country like America, where we take so much pride in our independence
and the ability to control our individual destinies and career choices,
why shouldn't we offer these choices in our high schools?

I have to recall some discussions on this list with school board members
that keep emphasizing how much we value our choice in SPPS, with regards
to where we CHOOSE our children to attend school.  I would rather see more
choice of programs in each school and allow students to really invest in
their future, whether it involves a four year college degree or a
transition into trades.

I have even heard of students that choose to go the trade education route
first and then once they establish themselves in a career of interest,
further their education through tuition benefits at the companies they end
up in and end up using their trade to catapult their educational
experiences later through workplace benefits.

Doesn't this make sense?

Pamela Ellison
Como Park
Saint Paul
> Last week, we were involved in a discussion about Job Shadowing
> programs in St. Paul High Schools. Today, I read that St. Paul high
> schools are actually implementing a program that "will start churning
> out certified young mechanics."
>
> According to the article, "It's all part of a push by the auto
> industry, school districts and technical colleges to pull more
> promising students into an increasingly high-tech career, educators
> say."
>
> Now, I suspect - that this is probably a worthwhile program and the
> "Automotive Service Center" has been there for 30 years. But, I can't
> help but wonder about the implications of using our public school
> system as an industry training program.
>
> Let me be clear, I'm undecided on this issue and eager to hear what
> others have to say. In Germany (and I think other European countries)
> this is very common. It has drawbacks, but also very real benefits
> for some students. I'm not even sure that this is NEW to our schools.
>
> Anyone have any comments?
>
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> St. Paul seeking students with lots of drive
> James Walsh,   Star Tribune
>
> http://www.startribune.com/stories/1592/4806885.html
>
> "While the St. Paul High School Automotive Service Center at Monroe
> Community School has been around in some form for about 30 years,
> this year the newly accredited center will start churning out
> certified young mechanics. The center is open to all St. Paul high
> school students. It joins seven other Minnesota high school programs
> transforming their auto shop classes into professional training
> programs."
>
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