I guess the difference here comes down to this; there are those on this list who 
believe that Government (whether it's law makers or the courts) can best determine 
what citizens and businesses can do.  And there are those of us who believe that the 
free market will determine by folks spending or not spending at particular businesses.

I will first say that I have 2 small children and don't like to eat in a smoky 
restaurant.  That is not the deciding factor whether I go there though.  The taste, 
quality of food and service are more important to me.  I will always choose to sit in 
a non-smoking section of a restaurant, when given the opportunity.  However, I believe 
that the choice should be there for businesses to determine if they want two sections. 
 If customers come back then the customers want that too.  If they didn't want that 
they would go elsewhere or put up there own money and open a non-smoking restaurant.

Bars are a different story.  I don't believe bars should be included in any ban.  
People have a choice to indulge in a more destructive substance (alcohol) or not.  
They have a choice to go to bars.  If you want a non-smoking bar, open one up and see 
if it can support itself.

MY SOLUTIONS WITHOUT A COMPLETE BAN:

Try to get about 50% of current licensed restaurants to agree to a voluntary no 
smoking policy.  All new permits for licensed restaurants would require that they 
choose either smoking or non-smoking for a policy.  Require high permit fees up front 
for the smoking permits.  Limit the number of smoking permits given out to the 
percentage of the population that smokes .  Use a lottery system for these smoking 
permits if demand outweighs permit ability (which I believe it would).

This way we can learn.  Do business that opt for non-smoking and those that opt for 
smoking have any impact on the businesses customer base or bottom line?

Bars are a different story.  I would not put any ban on bars.  No one has to go to a 
bar.  No one is excluded or included.  If non-smoking bars would be viable than get 
investors to start them up and have bands come in and play there.  Prove to people 
that non-smoking bars can be viable.  Make a difference by using your checkbook and 
supporting businesses that support your opinion.  If there aren't any then start one, 
if you can't then it may not be a viable business entity.

I know that I will vote against anyone who supports a complete smoking ban in St Paul 
or Ramsey County.  It is the next thing they are trying to take away.  I don't know 
what will be next, but if this passes another item will be up for government banning 
shortly afterwards.  Let's make government responsive to the people but allowing 
choices in the marketplace, not sanctioning one lifestyle over another.

I will also use my ability to control where I spend my money by shopping outside of 
ban areas.  I would rather drive to Hudson and spend my money in Wisconsin than 
support a restrictive government mentality.  I hope the Chamber of Commerce, Tavern 
League, restaurant industry and others start listening.  It is not a forgone 
conclusion that a ban has to occur.  The idea that it is a forgone conclusion is being 
perpetuated by the groups that want the ban.  There are many out there like me who 
say, Not Here, Not Now!  Let's look at alternatives to complete bans, like I have 
given above.

Tom Thompson
Como Park

Wondering when common sense will return to St Paul
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