Once again Guy Western has his facts TOTALLY WRONG, in fact he's 180 degrees backwards and is falsely accussing the DFL of things we did not do.
He writes, "I was over the surprise and "betrayal" immediately after the Democrats endorsed Kelly for mayor." "They could've picked Benanav, but Kelly "sounded more like a mayor"." If Mr. Western would check his facts, he would find that the DFL resoundingly REJECTED RANDY KELLY as our endorsed candidate for Mayor and, in fact WE ENDORSED JAY BENANAV FOR MAYOR! In fact, Kelly was pushed out the enodrsement process very early on, and our endorsement came down to Bob Long and Jay Benanav. After, 5 ballots, (if memory serves me correctly), the DFL endorased Jay Benanav, NOT RANDY KELLY. City voters REJECTED the DFL choice and elected Mayor Kelly. It would be nice if Mr. Western checked his facts before he writes, but then he likes bashing the DFL too much to let facts get in the way of his bias. Dan Dobson Summit Hill --- Guy Western <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Precisely, Pamela Joy! Those of us in the Green > Party must wonder the same > thing: Was this news? I was over the surprise and > "betrayal" immediately > after the Democrats endorsed Kelly for mayor. Was > he any less of a > Republican impersonator then!? No! They could've > picked Benanav, but > Kelly "sounded more like a mayor". Now it's a big > headline: VOTERS IGNORE > ISSUES, FOLLOW THEIR GUT, AND GET FOOLED AGAIN. > <yawn> > > Yet another object lesson in what happens when the > electorate votes with > its hormones. The DFL betrayed itSELF. It's too > late to look indignant, > now. > > Eric makes a good point, also. Kelly's too savvy to > sell his endorsement > for a song. Kelly calculates. Here's how the > conventional political > calculation goes: Kelly himself can't win in 2005 > without pulling a rabbit > out of his hat; a presidential race that's a dead > heat after the Democrat > convention goes to the incumbent; still, the race is > close enough to make > the endorsement of an otherwise inconsequential > Midwestern mayor worth > something; the Democrats aren't offering any rabbits > in return for the > loyalty of one of their own mayors; Kelly supports > Bush; Bush serves > hassenpfeffer (with pork, not rabbit) for St. Paul. > > Looks like the ball is in the DFL's court. What are > they going to do > besides whine? Boot him out and clone another Norm? > And what about the > dueling smoking bans. It's as exciting as one of > those old, > black-and-white, cliffhanger, serial westerns (I > should know, I am one). > Will Corky Finney get to the old mine shaft in time > to help the pretty > daughter save the ranch for her honest, hard-working > father from the > devious bad guys who sneer real gleeful-like as they > roll their own > cigarettes and divvy up the gold while the piano > player tinkles "Buffalo > Gals Wontcha Come Out Tonight"? > > Remember to drink all your milk, podners, and always > think beFORE you vote. > > Guy Western > the West Side > > > [Original Message] > > From: Pam Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Eric Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > Dan Dobson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 8/2/04 9:10:29 AM > > Subject: Re: [StPaul] Kelly supports Bush - Who > can we get to run > againstKelly? > > > > I don't know why anyone is surprised by this > endorsement. As we > > Independents sometimes say, there is nothing worse > than a Republican > > masquerading as a Democrat or a Democrat > masquerading as a Republican. > > Randy Kelly is a Tim Penny, Tom Foley, and Norm > Coleman politician, they > > don't know who they are, so they don't know where > they are going, and they > > flip parties whenever it suits their purposes. > > > > All I can say is this should open the field for > someone of substance to > run > > for Mayor next time. > > > > Any takers? > > > > Pamela Ellison > > Como Park > > Saint Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Eric Mitchell" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Dan Dobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 6:10 AM > > Subject: Re: [StPaul] Kelly supports Bush - Who > can we get to run > > againstKelly? > > > > > > > Probably better to let the individuals make > their > > > minds up before puting them up for analysis. A > fast > > > rise can cause a harsh fall. > > > > > > I don't get this endorsement. This city is > clearly > > > Democratic. Norm Coleman didn't carry one single > > > precinct in the town he governed for two terms, > when > > > he ran for Senate. > > > > > > Maybe, just maybe, the Bush administraion has > made a > > > deal that is very pro-St Paul (no idea what that > could > > > be), and in return they only ask for token > support > > > from the Mayor. Of course in doing so, it > appears that > > > the Mayor's re-election just got tougher. > > > > > > Kelly didn't switch parties, he just endorsed > the best > > > unifier the Democrats ever had. He's too smart > of a > > > politician for this to be a simple as it seems. > Best > > > to wait and see what comes of this. > > > > > > Eric Mitchell > > > Payne-Phalen > > > > > > --- Dan Dobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > I have been having discussions over the past > few > > > > days > > > > over who we can run against Mayor Kelly. > Obviously, > > > > Corkey Finney is high on the list, but I would > like > > > > to > > > > hear other names from people who think would > be > > > > viable > > > > against Mayor Kelly. > > > > > > > > Dan Dobson > > > > Summit Hill - Saint Paul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! 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