Whilst I would never debate the DFL constitution with Jules.  I will point out
that the last special endorsing convention for county board, the convention that
endorsed Pat Lindgren for the seat currently held by Comm. Janice Rettman used
the senate district delegates and alternates elected from precincts within the
commissioner district to provide the endorsement.  

The tradition and usual practice is to do the endorsement with the largest body
within the party if practicable.  A 'recalled convention' or special endorsing
convention would surely be practicable.  I believe, if I am not mistaken, that
the authority to call the convention resides with the chair of the 4th
Congressional District, DFL and or the 4th DFL central committee.  The chair is
currently J. P Barone.

The reason that I have some familiarity with thh the history and procedure is
that I was a losing candidate at the endorsing convention mentioned and I served
for a period of penance as the chair of the 4th District DFL.

John Sherman
On the marches of Como and the North End

Quoting The Goldsteins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Anne summarized some scenarios for the District
> 
> Actually the State DFL Constitution gives some guidance.
> It provides in ARTICLE IX Section 2 for special endorsing commissions 
> in this circumstance, It provides for two possibilities depending on 
> the size of the jurisdiction. "For an electoral jurisdiction equivalent 
> to, or smaller than, a senatorial district in population, the delegates 
> and alternates elected at precinct caucuses within that jurisdiction 
> shall be delegates and alternates to the special endorsing commission.  
> For an electoral jurisdiction larger than a senatorial district in 
> population, ..., the delegates and alternates to the State Convention 
> who reside within the jurisdiction, or the delegates and alternates 
> elected at precinct caucuses within that jurisdiction shall be 
> delegates and alternates to the special endorsing commission."
> After the last census, senate districts had  a population of 4919479 / 
> 67 or  73425 and Ramsey County commissioner districts had a population 
> of  511035 / 7 or  73005. So by a factor of 0.57%. the members of the 
> special endorsing commision must be the delegates and alternates 
> elected earlier this year by the caucuses  of the 28 precincts that 
> make up the district, They are St Paul precincts 1-1, 1-2, 1-5, 1-6, 
> 1-7, 1-8, 1-11, 1-12, 1-13, 2-1, 2-2, 2-4, 3-1, 3-2, 3-7, 3-13, 3-14, 
> 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-5, 4-6, 4-7, 4-8, 4-9, 4-10 & 4-15.
> 
> This will theorretically short change my own precinct since many of our 
> elected delegates and alternates were Macalester seniors who have since 
> graduated. So be it.
> 
> Jules Goldstein
> Mac Groveland and Secretary of the State DFL Constitution and Bylaw 
> Commission.
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 23, 2004, at 12:52 PM, Anne White wrote:
> 
> > So far two people have announced they are running for Sue Haigh's 4th 
> > district seat on the Ramsey County Commission.  They are Ken Iosso, 
> > who has been Rafael Ortega's aide for the last three years, and Jim 
> > Mogen, Chair of the St Paul City DFL.  Several others are considering 
> > a run, but have not yet decided.
> >
> > As for the timing of the election, I understand that the following 
> > timeframe is being discussed:
> > Jan 23 -- DFL Endorsing Convention, with two possible scenarios for 
> > who would be eligible to vote -- either just CD directors in District 
> > 4, or CD directors & SD directors (including Precinct Chairs)
> > Feb 15 -- Primary
> > Mar 15 -- Election
> >
> > Given this scenario, or something similar, the Endorsing Convention is 
> > really the most important event.  I've talked to the two candidates 
> > who have announced, and both stated they would honor the decision of 
> > the convention and drop out of the race if they did not win the 
> > endorsement.  I would hope that any other candidates would do the 
> > same.
> >
> > The decision on dates and who will be included in the Endorsement 
> > Convention will be made next Wednesday evening, Dec 29th.  Rod 
> > Halvorson, the Ramsey County DFL Chair, will be running the meeting.
> >
> > Given the importance of the Endorsing Convention, I feel it's 
> > important to have the widest possible representation to make this 
> > decision.  I have urged Rod Halvorson to include both CD & SD 
> > directors, and he agrees that this would be best.  If others on this 
> > list feel strongly about who should be included in the Endorsing 
> > Convention, I urge you to contact people on the committee.  I've 
> > e-mailed Rod, to ask who else is on the committee, but have not yet 
> > heard back from him.  Or perhaps someone else on this list knows who's 
> > on the committee?
> >
> > Anne White
> > Merriam Park
> >
> > PS: Just realized I should introduce myself, since this is my first 
> > post on this list.  I've been reading the posts for almost a month 
> > now.  I moved to St Paul from California a little more than a year 
> > ago.  I'm a DFL Precinct Chair, SD64 Director & CD4 Director.
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