--- popman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

"The biggest reason why we don't have a greater crime
rate is because this city doesn't have the hard
attitude of big cities like LA / NYC / Chicago. We
have more educational opportunities here in relation
to the population, which softens attitudes. The cops
in those other cities make $40k and some make LESS!"

Is this an example of where Russ uses his "common
sense" rather than bother with statistics? It appears
so. I can't speak about LA or Chicago but cops in NYC
do NOT make $40k or less. The starting salary for a
cop in NYC is $44,000 and the average salary after
five years is $77,000. 

As for our problems being less than those in larger
cities, you are only slightly less likely to be
murdered or attacked in St. Paul than in NY. And you
are far more likely to be burglarized in St. Paul than
in NY.
http://www.bestplaces.net/crime/crime.aspx?Lcity=2758000&Rcity=3651000&=

This notion that St. Paul is a small town with small
town problems may have been true 25 years ago. As the
recent murders and gang activity have shown, it isn't
anymore. We may be a bit behind Minneapolis in this
regard but I suspect we'll catch up soon.

It's certainly legitimate to question how well we are
being served by our police force but let's try to get
our facts straight first.

Charlie Swope
Ward 1 


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