Gee... Isn't it amazing that I was the only poster that correctly identified Kelly as a DINO, way back when Mr. Birrenback was having his problems with the W.7th street plant?
I suspected this guy right off the bat and all I needed was the evidence. Now, we have the evidence and I'm glad that some of you are now seeing it my way. One way to fix these types of problems with local government is to start voting for a party instead of an individual. I wonder how long it's going to take for people to start seeing the wisdom in doing it this way. Rowdy Russ Hanson. The Truth in St. Paul. Message: 5 Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 12:56:43 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [StPaul] Randy Kelly for all of us? To: [email protected] ("St. Paul Discuss") Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 So, for those that think that King Randy Kelly�s recent letter to Democrats was intended to boost Chris Coleman, please consider the following: One, is anybody that easily fooled. Two months ago Kelly�s own internal polling showed the candidates in the following order as the most difficult opponents: Bill Finney, Jay Benanav, Rafeal Ortega, Chris Coleman. How stupid do you have to be to not understand the intent of the letter. Focus on Chris and have everyone go, �Oh man, he must totally want Rafeal by tearing down Chris� Does anyone really need to remind us of Chris Coleman�s credentials, or lack of them, as a supportive Democrat in this town? - Vigorous support of Holman Field - Support of Norm Coleman (Republican) - Support of Randy Kelly against Jay Benanav - Support of Christine Nelson against Dave Thune - Support of Kris Reiter (Republican) over Lee Helgen Chris Coleman and Randy Kelly are so much alike why do you suppose Randy does want to run against him! Imagine the debate: �Gee, Chris, remember how you supported baseball (like me) � remember how you supported hockey (like me) � remember how you worked against the Benananv resolution on the war (boy, that sure sounds like Norm Coleman and NOT Paul Wellstone) � remember how you supported the work of the Chamber even when it was against our neighborhoods (like me)� Use your head folks, Chris Coleman is Randy Kelly�s best daydream!!! Two, the argument that Chris Coleman can raise money sure seems awfully fishy to me. Case in point. Since 2000, when Chris ran against Betty McCollum (btw, another DFL endorsed candidate � I think Randy Kelly worked against her, too, by supporting either nobody or Steve Novak who was running against her) Chris has carried a DEBT from his campaign. I t�s hard to tell how much since his campaign apparently FAILED to file a report to the Federal Elections Commission SEVEN TIMES!!!!! And, required a letter from the FEC telling them to file or face action!!! It looks like he may have owed almost $33,000.00 up until about the last month and has worked out some deal with Bill Hillsman to either not pay the money or to pay a portion of it. In any case, he has now taken out a LOAN to pay off a debt from a campaign FIVE YEARS AGO!!!!! And, of course, conveniently, he did all of this only weeks before the DFL Precinct Caucuses. Might it be that Chris has used some of the money he used to run for Mayor to pay off his debt from his 2000 Congressional Campaign?? And, if he is already in debt personally from paying off debt and bills from a campaign five years ago, is he really in a position to assume anymore financial risk to run an effective Mayor�s race? Folks, Randy Kelly has $300,000 in cash already sitting in his bank account...Chris is already $5,000 in debt!!! If you don�t believe me, go to FEC.GOV and check out his reports. It�s a pretty funny read for a guy who is telling everyone he has the proven record of raising tons of money� �apparently just a proven record of paying the bills from previous campaigns!!! Three, those who argue that we shouldn�t just focus on who the most loyal DFLer is, should think about this. Chris Coleman�s argument that he is a team player and will get the Council to work for him is nuts. Go back and check your clippings, folks. On issue after issue after issue Chris Coleman picked fights with Kathy Lantry and Jay Benananv. This was even before the 2001 Mayors race. Kathy may have endorsed Chris, but, not knowing why she endorsed someone who has worked against Democrats and for and in support of Republicans is beyond me. I guess she will have to answer to that question some other time. Chris Coleman is a notorious hothead who has the same level of patience as Mayor Kelly. WoW!!!! Another attribute the Mayor and Chris Coleman share� Chris Coleman, the neighborhood activist, is also at odds with reality. Advocating on behalf of Holman field is not about the neighborhoods. Working to shove a baseball stadium down our throats is not about the neighborhoods. Endorsing the Chamber Candidate in Ward Two over neighborhood activist Dave Thune is not about the neighborhoods! Finally, Chris Coleman�s own conflict with progressive issues should be of concern to us. His cozy relationship with Goff and Howard � the former firm his father was a partner of � was the subject of City Pages article several years ago. This firm, which was the lead firm in DEFEATING the Fair Wages Initiative in 1995 and the lead firm in PROMOTING the baseball stadium initiative in 1999 � represents another example of Chris Coleman�s support of the Mayor � the Republican Mayor Norm Coleman � and other totally anti-progressive issues. In Conclusion, if you all want to support this idea that Chris Coleman is the most electable candidate, please address these issues: Can Raise more money? Look at the FEC report and ask yourself whether this is true. He can secure the report of Democrats? Look at his record of support for Norm Coleman, for Republican Kris Reiter and other Republican initiatives. Then ask yourself if that is true. Because he represents issues of importance to Progressives? Working against the Iraq War resolution � voting and working for baseball � and working for companies that actively work against progressive issues seems rather odd for a progressive! Because Randy Kelly is afraid of him? Hardly. Randy�s salivating now thinking we�re all stupid enough to see the bait and switch in his disingenuous DFL letter. Wake up folks! We're smarter than this...aren't we????? B. Anderson St. Paul __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. 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