On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Bruce Johnson <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
> On Sep 19, 2008, at 9:18 PM, richardsan san wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Bruce Johnson <
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> on Real Time just now:
> >>
> >> "There are no atheists in foxholes, and there are no libertarians in
> >> financial crises."
> >>
> >> watched that, it was a weird show. i thought it was going to fall
> >> apart
> > near the beginning and end...
>
> What I mainly learned was that Andrew Sullivan is a idiot who doesn't
> have the slightest clue why the economy is bad, or that he's just
> another 'I got mine, Jack, fuck off!' Thatcherite conservative.
>
> He wants to blame it all on those greedy greedy pigs who bought houses
> they couldn't afford.
>
> No, it isn't. The mortgage companies who came up with these stupid
> loans, got their fees and kickbacks, then dumped the mortgages in
> securities that the credit rating companies had NO BUSINESS rating as
> anything other than junk are the primary villains in this crisis.
>
> There was constant drumbeat of cheerleading from the top on down about
> how this 'ownership society' was the endless wealth generator that the
> previous stock market bubble failed to be.
>
> People were steered into complex mortgages on the explicit promises
> that the value of their house would always go up and rates would
> always be low; shows spread like wildfire on cable about the
> glamourous and profitable life of house flippers, and a gold-rush
> mentality was generated in places like California, Florida, Nevada and
> Arizona by mortgage originators and developers.
>
> "greedy poor people" didnt' walk into a mortgage company and invent
> the Ninja loans, or interest-only loans.
>
> (And I won't EVEN get into the kind of 'brownlining' that went on,
> steering mostly minority borrowers into riskier sub-prime loans even
> when their credit should have qualified them for better fixed rate
> loans.)
>
> yeah, that's skimming the top of that dude...he was too animated...was he
high on jesus or something-[just himself?]?

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