On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:40 PM, Michael Luscombe wrote:

>
> Obama was never the hyper-left liberal terrorist that Republican
> fearmongers made him out to be (hi Francis). He ran on a very non-
> partisan, left-to-center platform, and that's why he was elected.

Eeeww, boy.

There you go attributing statements and implications to me that I did  
not make. It's childish and unnecessary.

Had you been paying attention or actually read what I wrote during  
the campaign you'd know that most of my criticism was directed at the  
media and the ignorant that voted for Obama because they projected  
their political beliefs onto him. And by ignorant I don't mean  
stupid. Give folks faulty info and they make faulty choices. (And by  
faulty choices, I don't mean Obama is wrong for our country.)

No one knew how Obama would govern. Not even a know-it-all like you.  
His only administrative experience was kept secret with the willing  
participation of the media.

The media gave away their credibility to get Obama elected, which  
they didn't need to do. They could have "vetted" him more vigorously  
and it is likely he would have won anyway. Now that media is paying  
the price. Without journalist integrity or credibility, they have  
nothing worth reading and no value to their advertising. Serves them  
right in my book.

Before you keep extolling the virtues of compromise, you might want  
to bone up on your perspicacity. Clearly understanding your  
opponent's position is absolutely necessary to achieve compromise. In  
the meantime, I'll work on my perspicuity. Or have another brandy.

Say, why don't you take your arguments to websites that long  
supported Obama. That'd be real ballsy, kind of like Prop. 8  
supporters storming a mosque to protest the religious beliefs of  
muslims during services on their holy day.

> My hope, and I'm assuming most people's hope, is that Obama makes
> intelligent, informed decisions for the ENTIRE country, and not run
> the office for his party and corporate patrons.
>
> I'm not sure if you've noticed, but Obama is calm and collected.
> Anyone that expected him to roll into office and toss the rest of the
> bums out should be reevaluating their delusions. I hope that he
> shakes a lot of hands and convinces both parties to come to mutually
> acceptable compromises on key issues.
>
> You know, like adults. Mature, calm, collected, reserved. You need to
> remove the stigma from the word "compromise", as the Republicans have
> done a great job of convincing folks that it means "surrender".
>
> "Not immediately" is not "never", btw.
>
> Out of Iraq? Absolutely, but it would be irresponsible to just pack
> them into planes and be done with it.
>
> Change the tax plan? Absolutely, but not in one day.
>
> Health care? Absolutely, but in a measured way. He couldn't just roll
> into office and shut down private health insurance companies on day
> one, the infrastructure isn't there.
>
> I'm sure there are some Republicans that are pissed that Bush didn't
> bomb Iran. No one can go far enough for some.
>
> Drastic change right out of the gate would simply reaffirm republican
> propaganda about what a radical he is. Everyone that read the guy
> right knew that was never going to happen, wishful thinking aside.
>
> --
> Michael
>
>
> On 8-Dec-08, at 4:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>
>> Try as you might, you can't attribute those discrepancies to Bush.
>> They're Obama's, pure and simple.
>>
>> So, when are you going to start the "Obama Lied!" campaign? Or is
>> that only for folks with an "R" after their name?
>>
>> Subject: [Stratalist-ot] Re: So much for change you can believe in
>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:33 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did he run for or against a 3rd Bush term? Or was it the 3rd
>>>> Clinton term?
>>>> Who knows, I'm just glad he's pissing off the far left:
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16292.html>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> uh, yeah
>>> let's ignore the most recent negative economic developments and a
>>> lame ass
>>> administration that isn't doing a hell of a lot...as they let the
>>> door hit
>>> them in the ass on their way out.
>
> >


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