On Dec 29, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Francis Drouillard wrote:
> At 11:09 AM 12/29/2008, Brian Lawson's fingers tapped:
>> On Dec 29, 2008, at 11:59 AM, Francis Drouillard wrote:
>>>> Wow, freaky. I suspect it takes pretty specific conditions for  
>>>> ice to grow that way....just the right temp and humidity and no  
>>>> wind.
>>>
>>> I suspect conditions must be near the triple point for water,  
>>> namely 0.16 degrees C and a total pressure near one atmosphere.
>>
>> We are at roughly 4,000 feet here so I'm not sure how we would get  
>> to one atmosphere of pressure.
>
> Now you're really pressing the limits of my recall regarding the  
> triple point. The vapor pressure needs to be about 1/100th  
> atmosphere, but the total pressure can be much higher, up to one  
> atmosphere.
>
> Or something like that. If I recall correctly, water is one of the  
> only materials with a triple point that can be found under natural  
> atmospheric conditions.
>
> In any event, that is one awesome image capture.

Bob and I went out this morning to shoot some more of the ice geodes  
only this time we wanted to do close-ups of the crystals. Since the  
location where we found them is not far from work I figured we could  
get out there about 7:30, shoot a couple of pictures and I'd get to  
work on time at 8. We got there and there was hoarfrost on the surface  
of the lava rocks but nothing in between them like the other day. We  
shot a few sunrise shots and headed down the hill back over the rocks  
and we could see them growing on the vertical surfaces while the frost  
on the tops of the rocks was evaporating.

You were right about the conditions needed, the air had to be warm  
enough to start sublimating the frozen moisture down below the rocks  
while their surfaces were still at or below freezing so the water  
vapor would deposit on them and crystalize. It was pretty cool to be  
able to watch them grow like that.
--
Brian

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