I'm not in favor of any of these proposals, largely because they can be fixed by sending better people to Washington, DC. But I can't help but note that it takes a real political class douche-bagger to blame the things this proposal tries to correct on Tea Parties, who didn't exist when this list started circulating.
Tea Partiers are working effectively to replace many in the political class to restore our Republican form of government. That they get blamed for everything by douche-baggers on the left is a measure of their political effectiveness. But that red herring will fail the left short as the policies they promote further erode our economy and lifestyle: <http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2011/08/10/attacking_tea_party_a_useless_red_herring_261232.html> On Aug 11, 2011, at 7:00 PM, TENEBRAE wrote: > Wow, Bruce, first time I can say I think you completely missed the point. > -W > > > On Aug 11, 2011, at 8:39 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > >> >> On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:36 PM, John D wrote: >> >>> A friend who usually sends me forwarded email of a "conservative" >>> nature just sent this. And damned if I don't agree. >>> >> >> Bad idea...these sorts of things are generally rooted in deep ignorance. >> >> >>> Keep this going. Let Congress sacrifice like the rest of us. This is >>> an excellent idea. >>> >>> No matter what your political party, I think we are all pretty sick of >>> Congress’s shenanigans. Maybe if they were brought down a peg, they >>> might feel more like taking better care of the American people instead >>> of themselves and their next election chances. I think this email is >>> filled with excellent ideas, so I am passing it on. >>> >> >> On the contrary, they are caring very well for the people they represent. >> Since Money == Speech, their constituency is those who pay for their >> campaigns. >> >>> The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took >>> only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people >>> demanded it. That was in 1971... Before computers, before e-mail, >>> before cell phones, etc. >> >> And we were shipping 18-year-olds off to die by the thousands in a war they >> had no say in.... >> >>> >>> In three days, most people in The United States of America will have >>> the message. This is one idea that really should be passed around. >>> Congressional Reform Act of 2011 >> >> Damned teabaggers always too damn lazy to do things the right way "There >> outta be a law!" >>> >>> 1. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman collects a salary while in >>> office and receives no pay when they are out of office. >> >> Tenure? There is no congressional "tenure"; we hold elections every two >> years. Want to toss the bums out? Do it the democratic way: elect someone >> else. >> >>> >>> 2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security. >>> All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social >>> Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social >>> Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. >>> It may not be used for any other purpose. >> >> Well, this is moot anyway, since only a handful of members are getting the >> congressional pension: congress has been on Social Security since the early >> 80's... >> >> <http://www.snopes.com/politics/socialsecurity/pensions.asp> >> >>> >>> 3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all >>> Americans do. >>> >> >> "All americans' ?? You're giving up on Social Security that easily? >> >> >>> 4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional >>> pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%. >> >> Only if the rest of us get these nice annual raises.. >> >>> >>> 5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in >>> the same health care system as the American people. >> >> That would be, as in most cases, provided by their employer...meaning the >> same goddamn health plan they have now. >> >> >>> >>> 6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American >>> people. >>> >> >> Document cases where this is true? >> >>> 7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective >>> 1/1/12. >>> >> >> What? You want to throw out one of the foundations of capitalism (contract >> law)? Good luck getting any contracts of your own honored in that >> environment. >> >> >>> The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen. >>> >> >> Yes we did. This is where is falls into stupid teabaggery. >> >> WE HAVE ELECTIONS! FEWER THAN HALF OF US BOTHER TO VOTE! We get the Congress >> we vote for...literally. >> >>> >>> THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!!!!! >> >> No. >> >> THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!: >> >> <http://tinyurl.com/3zjlxwg> >> >> Democracy is hard and requires you to work...quit looking for shortcuts. >> >> -- >> Bruce Johnson >> >> "Wherever you go, there you are" B. 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