The last message was sent off early ... Basically I think the guy you quote is correct ... Though I wonder at the fake fear people must be living with that they can't see the rational conclusion of their fetish ... I wonder why rational people would worry about background checks that might keep a minority of persons in check ... Could it be that they know they may be found to be nuts
Kama se we we ni nani On 24/04/2013, at 8:46 PM, Mugsy Lunsford <[email protected]> wrote: > I've been interested in the gun debate, or lack of it, on FB, and although I > rarely post about it, my biggest annoyance with this, after our complete > inability to actually have a debate due to the extremely high level of > misinformation and reflexive screams of "GUNS! Their comin to tak r GUNS!" is > this bizarre idea that we're going to need small arms to fight off the > tyranny of our heavily militarized police and military forces. It's never > clear how this is supposed to happen, especially since, duh - drones, hello? > - but I ran across someone who's carrying on a fairly reasoned debate with a > few people who disagree with him but seem actually rational. He was trying to > clarify a point, and made some statements I wish I saw in the mainstream > media. I'm quoting him below: > > "I'm still trying to imagine how guns protect people from "tyranny". Aside > from an imaginary alternative universe where the US military gets deployed > against the US citizenry, and in which the members of our military are > actually *complicit* in this, I just can't see it. And honestly, if that was > to happen, what makes anyone think that their pea shooters would be any match > against a DRONE ARMY that can fire bunker-busting missiles with pinpoint > accuracy from miles away? The whole thing is just so unbelievably laughably > ridiculous. Or at least it would be if it wasn't so terrifying how many > well-armed US citizens honestly believe that Obama is the living Antichrist > and they are soldiers fighting in the actual End of Days Apocalypse as > extensions of a holy army against the Satanists: gays, atheists, and muslims." > > "my point is simply that by the time we get to point where there's guerilla > warfare between citizens and government forces, the guns have basically > failed to do their "job" of keeping away "tyranny". And if there's some > pretense that the defensibility of a populace with basic weapons against a > government military somehow keeps governments in-line... I think the vast > majority of the heavily-armed citizens of big swaths of Africa, South East > Asia, the Middle East, and parts of Eastern Europe who have been at war with > government forces for the last few decades would seriously beg to differ. If > we reach THAT point... then we are well beyond the point of no return. And I > just think that ironically, the ONLY issue that people get upset over enough > to reach that point is the guns themselves. It's a circular logic.... we need > our guns to protect us from the people who want our guns and we will use our > guns to do so. Also, the presence of guns hasn't thus far scared the > government or corporations from screwing us in the ass as much as they want. > The whole situation reads to me more like the government knows better than to > take away the guns because the appeasement of having guns is the only thing > keeping the people with guns satisfied enough that they don't actually rebel. > It's like rap music and malt liquor for white people." > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "StrataList-OT" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/stratalist-ot?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "StrataList-OT" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/stratalist-ot?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
