You are right once again : it actually is !!
http://.../myapp/blah/123?otherStuff=222 works fine too in the current
version.
Sorry for the noise... I guess I should have some sleep ;-P
Cheers
Remi
On 5/28/07, Kai Grabfelder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hm,
>
> I don't see why I want to change the URLBinding if I add a new
> property to my action bean. Property Binding in the normal way
> (QueryString parameter) should always be possible as well.
>
> Whenever an application goes to production URLBindings should not be
> changed anyway because for the sake of SEO and user friendly URLs
> should hardly never ever change.
>
> Of course you are right, that clean urls are not that necessary for
> intranets but as long as they mean not any extra work they still
> could be used imo...
>
> cheers
>
> Kai
>
>
> --- Original Nachricht ---
> Absender: VANKEISBELCK Remi
> Datum: 28.05.2007 13:53
> > Well, it has side effects actually...
> >
> > For example, when you add a property to your action and want it bound,
> > you have to get back to your @UrlBinding and change what's in there...
> > Also, depending on the usage of your action bean, you may have
> > different parameter expectations that would not be usable with clean
> > URLs, as the parameters are "frozen" in the @UrlBinding.
> >
> > IMO, clean URLs are a requirement that everybody doesn't have. I never
> > use them when building intranets for example, as the app is not
> > supposed to be crawled by search engines, and anyway the URLs are too
> > complex to be "clean" (dynamic parameters and the like).
> > So for folks like you who need this on all their GETs, maybe a config
> > param for <s:link/url> would be ok ? So that when you ask for a link
> > or url in your page, then the clean url is used. Otherwise, in case of
> > POSTs and when you specifically tell Stripes that the url doesn't have
> > to be clean, the ugly one is used.
> >
> > What do you think ?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Remi
> >
> > On 5/26/07, Newman, John W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I personally think clean should be the default, or even the only way to do
> >> it. I will certainly use this 100% of the time, I can't see any reason to
> >> use an ugly url if the facility to build a clean one is that easy to use.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ben Gunter
> >> Sent: Sat 5/26/2007 10:35 AM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stripes Development List
> >> Subject: Re: [Stripes-dev] clean URLs
> >>
> >> I want to say it should require a separate annotation, but I can't come
> >> up with a good reason why. I guess that means we should just use
> >> @UrlBinding.
> >>
> >> -Ben
> >>
> >> VANKEISBELCK Remi wrote:
> >> > Hi Kai (and other UrlBinding fans ;-P),
> >> >
> >> > Well, it's true that my own version works like you describe, and it's
> >> > fine...
> >> >
> >> > Hmmm, frankly speaking I don't really know. You folks seem to be right
> >> > : why another annotation when one is enough ? Clarity ? Well, finally
> >> > you'd also notice the "clean" thingy at first glance, based on what's
> >> > inside @UrlBinding...
> >> >
> >> > Ben ? What's your take on this ?
> >> >
> >> > Cheers
> >> >
> >> > Remi
> >> >
> >> > On 5/25/07, Kai Grabfelder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Remi,
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm still wondering why anybody wants to specify multiple url
> >> >> annotations at one bean? I tend to agree with Barry that just ony
> >> >> URLBinding (may it be "clean" or not) annotation is enough. Other
> >> >> frameworks (for example symfony) do it this way as well.
> >> >>
> >> >> A "clean" url may not be necessary for POST requests / forms but
> >> >> it's not bad either, isn't it?
> >> >>
> >> >> cheers
> >> >>
> >> >> Kai
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --- Original Nachricht ---
> >> >> Absender: VANKEISBELCK Remi
> >> >> Datum: 25.05.2007 16:30
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hey Barry,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Well, it's only an additional feature : the existing @UrlBinding +
> >> >>> everything related is already fine and we don't want to change that.
> >> >>> The "beanclass" stuff would just use either @UrlBinding or @CleanUrl,
> >> >>> depending on what you ask,, e.g. :
> >> >>> <s:form beanclass="..."> -> uses regular UrlBinding as FORMs usually
> >> >>> don't need to be "clean"
> >> >>> <s:link beanclass="..."> -> uses CleanUrl as links are supposed to be
> >> >>> clean if the bean class has the @CleanUrl annotation, unless you
> >> >>> specify e.g. clean="false".
> >> >>>
> >> >>> IMHO, adding this to the existing @UrlBinding, it would make the
> >> >>> annotation more complex, without being really more convenient :
> >> >>>
> >> >>> @UrlBinding(value="/my/stuff.action", clean="/my/stuff/{p1}/...")
> >> >>> or
> >> >>> @UrlBinding("/my/stuff.action")
> >> >>> @CleanUrl("/my/stuff/{p1}/...")
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The second option looks more readable and expressive to me... And once
> >> >>> again @CleanUrl is a feature you want to add to your action bean, so
> >> >>> having it as a separate annotation is OK as far as I see. Annotate to
> >> >>> add features, that sticks to the Stripes spirit if I'm right :-)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Cheers
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Remi
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 5/25/07, Barry Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> All these ideas are making me very much look forward to using this
> >> >>>> feature--the ideas seem very promising. My knee-jerk responses would
> >> >>>> be to
> >> >>>> want classic-urls and clean-urls to both be configured using
> >> >>>> @UrlBinding.
> >> >>>> Can you have multiple @UrlBinding annotations for a single ActionBean
> >> >>>> right
> >> >>>> now? I thought you couldn't so that a beanclass uniquely implies a
> >> >>>> URL in
> >> >>>> all cases. If we're going to change the thinking behind that, we
> >> >>>> might as
> >> >>>> well go whole-hog and allow any number of classic-url or clean-url
> >> >>>> bindings,
> >> >>>> with one being the default and the others being able to be selected
> >> >>>> by name,
> >> >>>> or some such. What do you guys think?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> -BD aka RJ
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----
> >> >>>> From: VANKEISBELCK Remi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >>>> To: Tim Fennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >>>> Cc: Stripes Development List
> >> >>>> <[email protected]>
> >> >>>> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 8:53:35 AM
> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [Stripes-dev] clean URLs
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> As far as I see it, an additional annotation is OK. It's a specific
> >> >>>> feature that you add to your action bean, so it's worth it IMO.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On the other hand, I second Tim's point on s:link/url. Another tag
> >> >>>> isn't necessary (and could be confusing), and I think we can rework
> >> >>>> the existign tags so that they handle this.
> >> >>>> You would then write your links and urls the same way, and configure
> >> >>>> which method you prefer as an attribute or as a global configuration
> >> >>>> setting.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> <s:link beanclass=".." clean="true"> // throws exception if bean
> >> >>>> doesn't have @CleanUrl
> >> >>>> my stuff
> >> >>>> <s:link param .../>
> >> >>>> </s:link>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> What do you think ?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Cheers
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Remi
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On 5/25/07, Tim Fennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> Hey Guys,
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Ben: I very much like your approach. The only thing I'll say is that
> >> >>>>> having different annotations and link tags makes sense for an add-on,
> >> >>>>> but when we integrate this to the core - I'd love to see this "just
> >> >>>>> work" with s:link and s:url. The annotation - maybe it does make
> >> >>>>> sense to keep that separate? I'm probably not the best judge of how
> >> >>>>> people will want to use this stuff ;)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> -t
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On May 25, 2007, at 9:46 AM, Ben Gunter wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Great! I'm glad you like it. Yes, you definitely can still use
> >> >>>>>> "normal"
> >> >>>>>> URLs and params and all that. You don't even have to match the
> >> >>>>>> @UrlBinding to the @CleanUrl if you don't want to.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> VANKEISBELCK Remi wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Hey Ben,
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Cool !
> >> >>>>>>> I've just reopened my own version, and yours seems definitly
> >> >>>>>>> better :
> >> >>>>>>> * you don't need another request wrapper (how could I miss the
> >> >>>>>>> ForwardResolution trick ? neat !)
> >> >>>>>>> * you don't need any action separator (use the whole prefix before
> >> >>>>>>> param declaration)
> >> >>>>>>> * you have the link tag that already works (I'm still doing ugly
> >> >>>>>>> stuff
> >> >>>>>>> like <a href="/my/stuff/${blah}/foo/${bar.id}">... !!)
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> I'm voting for integration of your version :-)
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> A major question though : is the "regular" way still working ? I
> >> >>>>>>> mean,
> >> >>>>>>> can you use the same action with @CleanUrl and @UrlBinding+ugly
> >> >>>>>>> params
> >> >>>>>>> ?
> >> >>>>>>> I like the fact that with the clean URLs I have, I can still use
> >> >>>>>>> the
> >> >>>>>>> same beans with "ugly" urls...
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> See ya
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Rémi
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> On 5/25/07, Ben Gunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Remi, I know you have done some work on clean URLs. This is how
> >> >>>>>>>> I've
> >> >>>>>>>> implemented it. We can take what we like from our two
> >> >>>>>>>> implementations
> >> >>>>>>>> and incorporate it into Stripes.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> The ActionBean looks like this:
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> @CleanUrl("/my/action/{state}/{city}")
> >> >>>>>>>> public class MyActionBean extends BaseActionBean {
> >> >>>>>>>> @Validate(required=true) private String state;
> >> >>>>>>>> @Validate(required=true) private String city;
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> // ... other stuff
> >> >>>>>>>> }
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> To create clean links to an ActionBean annotated with @CleanUrl,
> >> >>>>>>>> you
> >> >>>>>>>> would do this:
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> <%@ taglib="sx"
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>> uri="http://stripes.sourceforge.net/stripes-
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> extras.tld" %>
> >> >>>>>>>> <sx:clean-link
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>> beanclass="com.mycompany.stripes.action.MyActionBean">
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Atlanta, Georgia
> >> >>>>>>>> <s:param name="state">GA</s:param>
> >> >>>>>>>> <s:param name="city">Atlanta</s:param>
> >> >>>>>>>> </sx:clean-link>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> This would generate a link to /my/action/GA/Atlanta. That's
> >> >>>>>>>> pretty much
> >> >>>>>>>> all there is to using it.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> The clean links are handled by a Stripes Interceptor. At startup,
> >> >>>>>>>> it
> >> >>>>>>>> scans all ActionBeans for @CleanUrls and caches the mapping
> >> >>>>>>>> prefix (i.e.
> >> >>>>>>>> the longest literal string before the first parameter
> >> >>>>>>>> specification).
> >> >>>>>>>> For each request it checks to see if the URI has been mapped using
> >> >>>>>>>> @CleanUrl. If it does find one that matches, then it executes a
> >> >>>>>>>> ForwardResolution to the ActionBean's URL binding and adds the
> >> >>>>>>>> parameters to the forwarded request. After that it just proceeds
> >> >>>>>>>> like a
> >> >>>>>>>> normal request with binding, validation, and all the other good
> >> >>>>>>>> stuff.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> I'm still working out a couple of little kinks, but it is working
> >> >>>>>>>> well.
> >> >>>>>>>> I'm caching everything I can to optimize the performance.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> -Ben
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
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