Stripes users -

I've been meaning to write up a more elaborate posting about our use of stripes but I wanted to give you another datapoint.... and more kudos to stripes.

My company, Evernote, has been using stripes for over a year -- I started using it after a number of successful smaller projects at a previous company. We're now serving over 450k registered users and over 25k requests per minute in a clustered set of servers.

We use stripes for our web, iphone web, and web mobile user interface - stripes gave us a lot of model/controller code reuse. The framework is used in conjunction with Hibernate and also GWT for some of the more interactive interfaces.

Performance has never been an issue.
Stripes makes it easier to make more secure applications.
Stripes has helped me bring new junior non-java engineers up to speed very quickly - they are less likely to make errors that new Java servlet engineers make. Stripes layout frameworks are remarkably simple and useful -- the best I've used. UI code reuse is effortless. We continue to be impressed about how easy it is to extend stripes and also how well it plays with other tools (be it AJAX frameworks or tag libraries). (Probably not as issue for you) but localization using stripes was very easy, even with some complex requirements. The default UI widgets (especially error handling) are minimal but great and very configurable. They make creating well behaved forms the default.

My recommendation, if you're going to use Stripes, is to get one senior person to learn it from from top-to-bottom establishing the usage guidelines for the rest of the team. Stripes is incredibly hard to use if you use it wrong -- a few good examples are usually all you need but if folks head off in the wrong direction they can get frustrated quickly. Things like allowing multiple forms on a page are very easy to do and but also really frustrating if you don't know how to make it work.

This mailing list is great and the community is very responsive but I think it's essential to have a local champion.

Phil

On Oct 8, 2008, at 6:15 AM, ping lu wrote:

Motten, Jeppe, Chris,

thanks so much for your excellent point, they are very helpful to my evaluation process. I am trying to bring Stripes as a player into this project.

Cheers,

Lu


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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 15:40:15 -0400
Subject: Re: [Stripes-users] is Stripes suitable?

Here's a casual performance comparison from a couple of years back that found Stripes to be significantly faster than WebWork/Struts 2 primarily because of Struts 2's reliance on OGNL for binding. As far as I know, Spring MVC uses OGNL also.

I'm using Stripes in two production applications, one of which is running on a modest Linux server. The number of users has grown from tens to thousands, and the only scalability issues have been resolved in the persistence tier - Stripes contributes very little overhead to this app.

There's a list of some public sites built using Stripes here. One of the more notable ones is http://imagesource.cnn.com

I would suggest that you try porting a slice of one of your existing Spring MVC applications and doing your own comparison. You could use Apache JMeter to load-test a few use cases and measure response times as the number of users increase.

By the way, a lot of people (including me) are using Stripes along with other Spring services (transactions, persistence, URL security) and Stripes coexists happily with those.

Chris.

On Oct 7, 2008, at 12:47 PM, ping lu wrote:

Hi, Strips community,

Currently we are evaluating web framework for a very big enterprise project. Stripes seems to be the pick at this moment.

Though we still need more materials to support the decision (for politically correctness). Maybe your knowledge can easily help us out with some information: 1. Could you please list any relatively large scale enterprise applications used by Stripes? 2. what is the biggest advantage (or weakness) Stripes over Spring MVC (2.5 or plus) in particular? (since Spring MVC has already been used in our organization).

We especially concern about "request/response performance" and "scalability".

With those information, we may able to make our final decisions. Any help from you is greatly appreciated.

regards,

H. Lu

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