We were in the same situation, like this guy. We needed a framework, so we hit
the internet. Ever since we landed on the stripes, we have not looked any
further. If for nothing, its the single tool i have used that have the best
support I have ever had for free.
Guys who help we the newbies and professional wannbies, i want to say we really
appreciate your help. Sometimes our problems are completely out of our own
carelessness but amazingly there is always someone who is willing to say
something about your problem, whether it is directly or indirectly related to
Stripes.
So far, i have never read anything bad on stripes, which make me believe it has
something that other presentation frameworks don t have.
PROFESSIONAL SUPPORT FOR FREE
thankx guys. Its great to see all these gurus(Tim, Fred, Alex. etc) - trying to
help me with my NPE
NB. my company is www.lalpac.com. Our software is not in the public domain, so
we cannot add it to the stripes around the world, but it is used massively to
deliver robust systems to local governments in the UK
--- On Thu, 10/9/08, Dan Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Dan Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Stripes-users] is Stripes suitable?
To: "Stripes Users List" <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 12:02 PM
Stripes layout frameworks are remarkably simple and useful -- the best I've
used. UI code reuse is effortless.
While I agree that the UI code functions amazingly, I don’t like the way that 1
tag does different things in different contexts. Maybe it’s just me, but that
gets really complex to think about.
From: Philip Constantinou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 7:07 AM
To: Stripes Users List
Subject: Re: [Stripes-users] is Stripes suitable?
Stripes users -
I've been meaning to write up a more elaborate posting about our use of stripes
but I wanted to give you another datapoint.... and more kudos to stripes.
My company, Evernote, has been using stripes for over a year -- I started using
it after a number of successful smaller projects at a previous company. We're
now serving over 450k registered users and over 25k requests per minute in a
clustered set of servers.
We use stripes for our web, iphone web, and web mobile user interface -
stripes gave us a lot of model/controller code reuse. The framework is used in
conjunction with Hibernate and also GWT for some of the more interactive
interfaces.
Performance has never been an issue.
Stripes makes it easier to make more secure applications.
Stripes has helped me bring new junior non-java engineers up to speed very
quickly - they are less likely to make errors that new Java servlet engineers
make.
Stripes layout frameworks are remarkably simple and useful -- the best I've
used. UI code reuse is effortless.
We continue to be impressed about how easy it is to extend stripes and also how
well it plays with other tools (be it AJAX frameworks or tag libraries).
(Probably not as issue for you) but localization using stripes was very easy,
even with some complex requirements.
The default UI widgets (especially error handling) are minimal but great and
very configurable. They make creating well behaved forms the default.
My recommendation, if you're going to use Stripes, is to get one senior person
to learn it from from top-to-bottom establishing the usage guidelines for the
rest of the team. Stripes is incredibly hard to use if you use it wrong -- a
few good examples are usually all you need but if folks head off in the wrong
direction they can get frustrated quickly. Things like allowing multiple forms
on a page are very easy to do and but also really frustrating if you don't know
how to make it work.
This mailing list is great and the community is very responsive but I think
it's essential to have a local champion.
Phil
On Oct 8, 2008, at 6:15 AM, ping lu wrote:
Motten, Jeppe, Chris,
thanks so much for your excellent point, they are very helpful to my evaluation
process. I am trying to bring Stripes as a player into this project.
Cheers,
Lu
From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 15:40:15 -0400
Subject: Re: [Stripes-users] is Stripes suitable?
Here's a casual performance comparison from a couple of years back that found
Stripes to be significantly faster than WebWork/Struts 2 primarily because of
Struts 2's reliance on OGNL for binding. As far as I know, Spring MVC uses OGNL
also.
I'm using Stripes in two production applications, one of which is running on a
modest Linux server. The number of users has grown from tens to thousands, and
the only scalability issues have been resolved in the persistence tier -
Stripes contributes very little overhead to this app.
There's a list of some public sites built using Stripes here. One of the more
notable ones is http://imagesource.cnn.com
I would suggest that you try porting a slice of one of your existing Spring MVC
applications and doing your own comparison. You could use Apache JMeter to
load-test a few use cases and measure response times as the number of users
increase.
By the way, a lot of people (including me) are using Stripes along with other
Spring services (transactions, persistence, URL security) and Stripes coexists
happily with those.
Chris.
On Oct 7, 2008, at 12:47 PM, ping lu wrote:
Hi, Strips community,
Currently we are evaluating web framework for a very big enterprise project.
Stripes seems to be the pick at this moment.
Though we still need more materials to support the decision (for politically
correctness). Maybe your knowledge can easily help us out with some information:
1. Could you please list any relatively large scale enterprise applications
used by Stripes?
2. what is the biggest advantage (or weakness) Stripes over Spring MVC (2.5 or
plus) in particular? (since Spring MVC has already been used in our
organization).
We especially concern about "request/response performance" and "scalability".
With those information, we may able to make our final decisions. Any help from
you is greatly appreciated.
regards,
H. Lu
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