"Again, understand that I see your point and the value in this
being done automatically, but I'm also catering to not-so-newbies
that are already using Stripes and just want to save some time
creating a new project."
Sure. But I'd argue that the not-so-newbies would appreciate a more all
encompassing solution more so than the complete newbie. Only because those
of us that do this on a regular basis probably aren't using "installed"
containers. I always either use an embedded jetty that I launch with Ant or
a local per project tomcat that I start using Ant.
Anyway, I still think its a step in the right direction. :)
Gregg
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Freddy Daoud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Freddy's quickstart is a step in the right direction but it has some
> > flaws
> > IMHO. One is it doesn't internally take care of a development container
> > to
> > run your app in. You have to either go get jetty, set a jetty home, etc
> > etc
> > or run it in Tomcat which is another manual process the way Freddy has it
> > set up. Now for the absolute beginner this is a catch 22.
>
> I agree that these are additional steps that have to be done. But you
> could argue further that you need to install the JDK, and to say a
> PHP newbie who is using Stripes to try Java web application development,
> does that mean that the script should install the JDK?
>
> I debated including Jetty automatically. It wouldn't be too hard to
> embed it (my first cut at the Stripes book sample code had this in
> the bundle, but then I was asked to remove it.)
>
> At the end of the day, I decided that it was worth it for the newbie
> to understand how to install Jetty or Tomcat. Either one is just
> download/unzip/configure path, which is the same for any Java app
> so you'd have to be a complete newbie not to have done this before.
> Also, if you've ever run any Java web app before, you will already
> have a servlet container installed.
>
> Again, understand that I see your point and the value in this
> being done automatically, but I'm also catering to not-so-newbies
> that are already using Stripes and just want to save some time
> creating a new project.
>
> Just my 0.02$CAD.
>
> Cheers,
> Freddy
> http://www.stripesbook.com
>
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