Hi Nikolaos, I wish that the stripes guys were into maven, because I've reaped the benefits firsthand. My comment was just me voicing an observation.
I agree with pretty much everything you said in your original post. I like the stripes API; I think it has a lot going for it. However, not publishing your artifacts (with javadocs AND source jars) to repo1 is a faux pas these days. Even if you don't like maven 2, there are other build tools that are using repo1 to fetch dependencies, like Ivy and Buildr. By choosing not to publish your stuff to repo1, you are causing more work for developers to use your framework. In the end, this means that the bar for adoption of your framework is pushed much higher, because the cost of setup is higher. As for needing explicit permisson to create the sonatype repo, I don't see anything in the docs that says I couldn't just request the repo as some random guy. I just wouldn't feel comfortable hi-jacking the namespace without permission because it might cause problems in the future, if stripes changed their minds and decided to go that way. Oh, and you're probably right about having this discussion on the dev mailing list. It's just that I was pretty much shot down or ignored the last time I tried, so I'm not as motivated this time :) -Brandon On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Nikolaos Giannopoulos < nikol...@brightminds.org> wrote: > Hi Brandon, > > Thanks for replying. Comments in-line.... > > > Brandon Atkinson wrote: > > There seems to be a bit of an anti-maven culture in the stripes > community, which is probably why it still hasn't been resolved. > > Hmmm.... Interesting. I'm not sure what the anti-maven sentiment is but as > far as "many" Java developers are concerned it really is refreshing and > simplifies multi-project dependencies, external dependencies, etc... . I > have never tried getting something submitted to a maven central repository > but a local repository is dirt simple to setup. > > The only real issue I have with Maven is that the artifact has to be in > repo before it can be accessed. So until that happens I do agree that > making the software available for direct download is very useful and nice > BUT getting it into the repo after some reasonable time is also important > IMHO. > > > There was a thread a little while back about this, and Freddy tried to > get the artifact deployed to repo1 through the codehaus manual upload > service. The JIRA ticket showing the result is here > http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MAVENUPLOAD-2716 . > > The result was that the upload was rejected because no javadocs were > included, and no one replied when codehaus tried to bring this fact to the > submitters attention. > > I saw that thread today which also is over 2 months old and replied to it > before seeing this e-mail. Seeing that the submit: > - a) Hasn't been done in well over 2 months > - b) Got rejected and not re-addressed > AND > - c) finally that the issue was closed without remedy... > > IS NOT the right message I would want to send potential and existing > consumers of any software. > > > If we were really serious about it, we should probably sign up for the > freely available Sonatype service, which provides a pretty impressive > hosting service and handles uploads to repo1 automatically. > > I could set it up if I had explicit permission to do so. > > If that would facilitate getting new releases into repo1 then I am all for > it. > > I'm not very familiar with the internal workings of OS software. Who would > need to provide explicit permission? > > Perhaps this thread needs to be moved to the stripes-development mailing > list :-) > > Thanks, > > --Nikolaos > > -Brandon > > > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Richard Hauswald < > richard.hausw...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> Just voted >> >> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Nikolaos Giannopoulos >> <nikol...@brightminds.org> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I just voted on the following: >> > >> > http://www.stripesframework.org/jira/browse/STS-738 >> > >> > While we have an internal Maven repo and can / will easily add 1.5.3 I >> > am worried that some who rely on Maven will simply stick to 1.5.2 and >> > not get its benefits. This can be said about any release mind you... >> > always making the latest available for both download and maven repo is >> > just smart IMO. >> > >> > While I realize - and totally appreciate - all the hard work that Tim >> > and people in the OS community have put into Stripes I would like to see >> > Stripes gain momentum and traction - and these types of things - as >> > minor as they are - don't portray / instill max confidence in software. >> > >> > As lets face it - there are dozens of Java frameworks - and the only >> > down side seen to Stripes is its small community and development which >> > for me personally means that things can only get better b/c the >> > foundation is most important but the community has to pull together >> > eventually. >> > >> > --Nikolaos >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Stripes-users mailing list >> > Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Richard Hauswald >> Blog: http://tnfstacc.blogspot.com/ >> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/richardhauswald >> Xing: http://www.xing.com/profile/Richard_Hauswald >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> Stripes-users mailing list >> Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users >> > > ------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Stripes-users mailing > liststripes-us...@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users > > > > -- > Nikolaos Giannopoulos > Director, BrightMinds Software Inc. > e. nikol...@brightminds.org > > w. www.brightminds.org > t. 1.613.822.1700 > c. 1.613.797.0036 > f. 1.613.822.1915 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Stripes-users mailing list > Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users > >
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