For what it is worth I just went though all of this with the new mybatis
(formerly apache ibatis).  It was a complete breeze to setup with sonatype.

Being a stripes advocate as well I would love to help get stripes setup on
there as well.

Let me know,

Nathan Maves

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Brandon Atkinson <
brandon.n.atkin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Nikolaos,
>
> I wish that the stripes guys were into maven, because I've reaped the
> benefits firsthand.
> My comment was just me voicing an observation.
>
> I agree with pretty much everything you said in your original post.
> I like the stripes API; I think it has a lot going for it.  However, not
> publishing your artifacts (with javadocs AND source jars)
> to repo1 is a faux pas these days.
>
> Even if you don't like maven 2, there are other build tools that are using
> repo1 to fetch dependencies, like Ivy and Buildr.
> By choosing not to publish your stuff to repo1, you are causing more work
> for developers to use your framework.  In the
> end, this means that the bar for adoption of your framework is pushed much
> higher, because the cost of setup is higher.
>
> As for needing explicit permisson to create the sonatype repo, I don't see
> anything in the docs that says I couldn't just
> request the repo as some random guy.  I just wouldn't feel comfortable
> hi-jacking the namespace without permission because it might cause problems
> in the future, if stripes changed their minds  and decided to go that way.
>
> Oh, and you're probably right about having this discussion on the dev
> mailing list.  It's just that I was pretty much shot down or ignored the
> last time
> I tried, so I'm not as motivated this time :)
>
> -Brandon
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Nikolaos Giannopoulos <
> nikol...@brightminds.org> wrote:
>
>>  Hi Brandon,
>>
>> Thanks for replying.  Comments in-line....
>>
>>
>> Brandon Atkinson wrote:
>>
>>  There seems to be a bit of an anti-maven culture in the stripes
>> community, which is probably why it still hasn't been resolved.
>>
>> Hmmm.... Interesting.  I'm not sure what the anti-maven sentiment is but
>> as far as "many" Java developers are concerned it really is refreshing and
>> simplifies multi-project dependencies, external dependencies, etc... .  I
>> have never tried getting something submitted to a maven central repository
>> but a local repository is dirt simple to setup.
>>
>> The only real issue I have with Maven is that the artifact has to be in
>> repo before it can be accessed.  So until that happens I do agree that
>> making the software available for direct download is very useful and nice
>> BUT getting it into the repo after some reasonable time is also important
>> IMHO.
>>
>>
>>  There was a thread a little while back about this, and Freddy tried to
>> get the artifact deployed to repo1 through the codehaus manual upload
>> service.  The JIRA ticket showing the result is here
>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MAVENUPLOAD-2716 .
>>
>>  The result was that the upload was rejected because no javadocs were
>> included, and no one replied when codehaus tried to bring this fact to the
>> submitters attention.
>>
>> I saw that thread today which also is over 2 months old and replied to it
>> before seeing this e-mail.  Seeing that the submit:
>> - a) Hasn't been done in well over 2 months
>> - b) Got rejected and not re-addressed
>> AND
>> - c) finally that the issue was closed without remedy...
>>
>> IS NOT the right message I would want to send potential and existing
>> consumers of any software.
>>
>>
>>  If we were really serious about it, we should probably sign up for the
>> freely available Sonatype service, which provides a pretty impressive
>> hosting service and handles uploads to repo1 automatically.
>>
>>  I could set it up if I had explicit permission to do so.
>>
>> If that would facilitate getting new releases into repo1 then I am all for
>> it.
>>
>> I'm not very familiar with the internal workings of OS software.  Who
>> would need to provide explicit permission?
>>
>> Perhaps this thread needs to be moved to the stripes-development mailing
>> list :-)
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --Nikolaos
>>
>>  -Brandon
>>
>>
>>     On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Richard Hauswald <
>> richard.hausw...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just voted
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Nikolaos Giannopoulos
>>> <nikol...@brightminds.org> wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > I just voted on the following:
>>> >
>>> > http://www.stripesframework.org/jira/browse/STS-738
>>> >
>>> > While we have an internal Maven repo and can / will easily add 1.5.3 I
>>> > am worried that some who rely on Maven will simply stick to 1.5.2 and
>>> > not get its benefits.  This can be said about any release mind you...
>>> > always making the latest available for both download and maven repo is
>>> > just smart IMO.
>>> >
>>> > While I realize - and totally appreciate - all the hard work that Tim
>>> > and people in the OS community have put into Stripes I would like to
>>> see
>>> > Stripes gain momentum and traction - and these types of things - as
>>> > minor as they are - don't portray / instill max confidence in software.
>>> >
>>> > As lets face it - there are dozens of Java frameworks - and the only
>>> > down side seen to Stripes is its small community and development which
>>> > for me personally means that things can only get better b/c the
>>> > foundation is most important but the community has to pull together
>>> > eventually.
>>> >
>>> > --Nikolaos
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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