Subject: Re: FormBeans ... as an Interface. From: "Vic C." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> === Martin, thanks for a reply. Let me see if I can be more coherent and then ask you a question please.
Context: Many intelligent people are implying that formbeans should never be a model/data layer. I agree with that if one does EJB with Struts. However, I found that sometimes it is practical that formbeans should be a model/data layer, by simply having formbeans delegate to DAO and not have actions transfer from BO or DAO. I myself have had great success on large projects with this approach. I teach this approach. And I recommend this approach to my clients. On a big project, KISS works magic. I found it to be more MVC. So... am I wise to disagree with so many intelligent people? This is why I started a thread. I first did Struts as per docs, the formbean not the model approach. I found that formbean as a model make Struts mode levergable and competitive to alterative designs. My criteria being how can a developer be more productive and write more attainable code. At least I would like people to say that there are several designs for formbeans use, with pluses and minuses, and not "formbeans is not a model". M To my clients I recommed that they use formbeans as a model. I think you said that you do not like EJB much; and would like to know how you have personally implemented model (CRUD/Master-Detail/multi-row updates) at a high level? Minor comments: - Users follow code samples, good or bad. - The main point is that more people do it wrong, not MVC, perhaps because they find it hard. Maybe formbean as model makes it easier. - If you do use formbean as a model you can unit test it. - The EJB connection is... if you do EJB do not use formbeans as model otherwise... maybe formbeans should be the model. - If people use JSTL.... Then use formbeans as model. - Cathedral comment was meant to say, hey, if formbeans as model was better, than lets keep the door open and not dictate not to do this. - I meant to say no need for BO or VO if Formbean is the model. - Some people make Struts look like a complex PetStore and not as MVC. KISS should be advocated. - I put webPIM using formbean as model on SourceForge, and was looking for a realistic example of formbeans not the model. Some of the comments about you should do Struts this way, as opposed to the way I did Struts was. One is a theory, the other actual. - I had wonderful experience using Struts with corporate developers once I use formbeans as model. Vic -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
