I think it would be worth investigating whether or not XHTML is fully backward compatible with HTML 4.01 (which i think it is), and then ONLY rendering XHTML, and forgetting about HTML altogether. Of course, this would have the be a version 2.0 enhancement because it would likely break some people's pages.
Anyone agree? --- - Nayan Hajratwala - Chikli Consulting LLC - http://www.chikli.com -----Original Message----- From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@;hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [VOTE] How to implement XHMTL support Ok, I think I agree with the non-body tag setting a page scoped attribute. I really like the style of <html:xhtml/> over <html:isXhtml/>. The "is" part indicates that it's a question rather than stating that we're using xhtml. Regardless, I'll get the changes in soon so people can start playing with it. David >From: Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [VOTE] How to implement XHMTL support >Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:10:29 -0800 (PST) > > > >On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, David Graham wrote: > > > What would <html:isXhtml/> do? > >This would be the way Craig was seeking for an included page to tell its >own Struts tags whether to render XHTML or plain HTML. It would set a >*page* context attribute, which the subsequent tags on that page would >check. > >As a corollary, the <html:html xhtml="true"> tag should set the key in >*page* scope rather than request scope, so that each page has to make its >own decision. > > > > > If we're going to use a tag I think it should be like this: > > <html:xhtml> > > <html:form> > > <html:text/> > > </html:form> > > </html:xhtml> > >Do you mean a separate tag from the <html:html> tag, instead of using ><html:html xhtml="true">, or are you referring to another tag for the >XHTML-ness ;-) of the content? If the former, I'm not sure why we would >want that. If the latter, I disagree that it should be a body tag, since >it needs to be an all-or-nothing tag, not one that applies only to its >body. > > > > > Any tag inside <html:xhtml> would be rendered as xhtml. This tag would >only > > be useful for jsp included files. > > > > Another question: what if <html:xhtml> is nested inside > > <html:html xhtml="false">? > >I think we should probably log a warning. In many cases, the resulting >output will work, but we need to flag that there's a potential problem. > >-- >Martin Cooper > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: RE: [VOTE] How to implement XHMTL support > > >Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:29:21 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > > > > > > >On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, David Graham wrote: > > > > > > > What if we just forgot about the <html:xhtml> tag altogether? If an > > > > included jsp wants to use xhtml they can set the Globals.XHTML_KEY > > >request > > > > parameter to true. > > > > > >How would you propose to do that without using scriptlets, and without > > >"knowing" the value of the key? > > > > > >I think perhaps a <html:isXhtml/> tag is the most straightforward > > >solution. > > > > > >-- > > >Martin Cooper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keep in mind that the currently implemented solution works for >people > > >using > > > > <html:html> in a jsp and for people using tiles where they can have >a > > > > layout.jsp like this: > > > > > > > > <html:html xhtml="true"> > > > > <tiles:insert attribute="body"/> > > > > </html:html> > > > > > > > > What's left is how to accomodate people using jsp includes. What do >you > > > > think? > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Karr, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >Subject: RE: [VOTE] How to implement XHMTL support > > > > >Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:06:56 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@;hotmail.com] > > > > > > > > > > > > What if we did this: > > > > > > 1. Store a boolean in the request under Globals.XHTML_KEY > > > > > > 2. <html:html xhtml="true"> would set the boolean to true > > > > > > 3. <html:xhtml> (new tag) would set the boolean to true > > > > > > 4. People could manually set the request attribute if they > > > > > > choose and > > > > > > realize potential problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > This frees you from using <html:html>, and allows included > > > > > > jsps to set their > > > > > > xhtml status independently of the outer page. > > > > > > > > > > > > Does this accomodate everyone's needs? > > > > > > > > > >Well, I have no "needs" for this, just opinions :) . > > > > > > > > > >Despite the simplicity of "html:xhtml", I think the name should be >a > > > > >little more different from "html:html". I used the example of > > > > >"html:useXhtml" to try to make it clearer that the tag isn't >generating > > > > >a HTML tag, and is pretty different from "html:html". > > > > > > > > > >Also (from your other note), if any tags nested (even through > > > > >"jsp:include") in <html:html xhtml="false"> will NOT use xhtml, >then > > > > >that implies that the other tag also needs a "true/false" >attribute, as > > > > >opposed to having no attributes (which would imply the tag's >presence > > > > >implies "true"). > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > > ><mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> > > > > >For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > ><mailto:struts-dev-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Tired of spam? 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