You are not obligated to contribute to Struts in any way and have a right to express your opinion. You said that 2 "releases" of Struts depend on nightly builds; however, betas and release candidates are not releases. When Struts 1.1 Final is released it will only depend on released versions of its dependant projects like logging.
I also want to point out that I (and I believe other Struts committers) are not too interested in the popularity of Struts. We work on it to suit our own needs and help others build applications faster. I'm glad you find Struts useful and thanks for your input!
David
From: Gary Ashley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'Struts Developers List' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: RC1 release and Commons Logging 1.0.2 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:46:40 -0600
Robert Leland wrote:
>The standard has always been that the Struts 1.1 release will depend on
>released version of the commons-xxxxx.jar's.
>The RC1 and others depend on the nightly builds of commons-xxx because >they almost always fix more bugs than they create. What --released-- >version of commons-xxx.jar's we use will likely be taken on a case by >case basis. I know that beanutils & digester have reciently had a new >release, and that Martin has released the first version of >commons-fileupload.
>We always welcome contributions to the code base, especially unit tests.
My inability to contribute at this time is the exact reason that I hesitated to send my email in the first place. I very much appreciate all the hard work and dedication that developers like you provide to developers like me. I apologize if you found it offensive.
>If you are not satified with their quality then contribute, that is >what open source is all about.
I had thought that ideas were considered contributions as well, and did not intend my question to be derogatory or implying dissatisfaction. I merely hoped to point out that statements on the Struts website concerning nightly builds coupled with 2 consecutive releases of Struts depending on Logging nightly builds was confusing to those not in the inner circle. I had hoped that my feedback would help improve the process for others in the future and be taken into consideration by the inner circle.
>Also, this message would have better been posted on the struts-user list.
Since my comments were not a question concerning configuration but more an opinion on release policy, I had thought it better suited to the developer list.
I understand your frustration to field "complaints" from non-contributors, but contend that spreading the word and putting struts into a few customer sites provides some contribution, however small. I sincerely hope to provide a significant contribution once I have completed my current project. I will see what I can do to help get the next release of Commons Logging out.
Thank you!
Gary
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