--- Vic Cekvenich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Agree 99.5%! (other than JSF of course, but all commers are welcome) > > Struts does not select a DAO! There are some good DAO's standard or not > and some bad ones. How many use the standard JDO? What if Struts shiped > with JDO by Castor(and Castor proved slow for example, as it did)? > > Struts could get out of View (very slowly move tags to jakarta taglib) > and be agnostic on view.
Struts is view agnostic. You can use any view technology you like. David > Pick your poison. I think a lot of people (my > clients all do) use display tag (and Struts menu), but it does not ship > with Struts, no big deal. > > And Struts could down the road then dish out XML, ala SOA, or Axis. XML > could then be rendered by any view I can think of, like the X tag. Maybe > > require the request processor element in struts-config.dtd to nudge > people. > > Struts core is controller and with that focus maybe better release > cycle. > > .V > > David Graham wrote: > > --- Steve Raeburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>What problems would be solved by repackaging into seperate jars? > > > > > > There is a perception among some people that Struts only supports JSP > in > > the view layer because it provides JSP tags. While this is not true, > it > > would be clearer if there was a separate taglib jar. Velocity users > > wouldn't have to lug around the JSP tags but, more importantly, the > tags > > could have their own release cycle. A *large* percentage of bugs are > > reported against the tags so it makes sense to decouple them from the > > "core". > > > > Also, as JSF becomes the standard view technology, there won't be a > need > > for the Struts specific html taglibs (JSTL has already largely > replaced > > the bean and logic taglibs). So, it makes sense to separate the > Struts > > "core" from the view layer technology because there are many choices > out > > there besides the Struts JSP custom tags. > > > > I don't see any benefit to separating out other parts of Struts > besides > > the custom tags. > > > > David > > > > > >>Steve > >> > >> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: Etienne Labonté [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>Sent: July 2, 2003 7:46 AM > >>>To: 'Struts Developers List' > >>>Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Modular Struts Examples > >>> > >>> > >>>I propose (quite informally) a new packaging: > >>> > >>> Struts.jar (core logic only) > >>> Struts-taglib-rt.jar > >>> Struts-taglib-el.jar (from current contrib/struts-el.jar) > >>> *Struts-tiles.jar > >>> *Struts-upload.jar > >>> *Struts-validator.jar > >>> Struts-jsf.jar > >>> > >>>Jars preceded by * are optional. I see no problem with leaving > >>>those closer > >>>to the core. > >>> > >>>Perhaps heavier on the backs of release managers, but more intuitive > >> > >>in my > >> > >>>sense. Someone using Struts with velocity could use only the core > >> > >>part. > >> > >>>Someone doing JSP will know the difference between EL and non-EL. > >>>Does this > >>>make sense to you? > >>> > >>> > >>>Etienne > >> > >> > >> > >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
