The Struts Sourceforge site, http://struts.sf.net, is a good place for
such Struts extensions.

Don

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Chris Gastin wrote:

> As I can tell from the list I have opened topic that is pretty well beaten.
> Let me first apologize.  I did not realize this was such a political topic
> in the Struts community.
>
> I am starting to think that there should be some sort of Struts Tag Lib
> Extensions, which would address some of these issues while being totally
> separate from the Struts project. I am starting to agree with David I don't
> want to polute Struts with non standard HTML, but it would be nice to have
> an add on module which is dependant on Struts that could give users the
> functionality which it seems that other are requesting. I am willing
> contribute to this effort.
>
> I did not realize there were so many bugs for the taglibs, which some of you
> pointed out. I will see if I can help out. I will check out bugzilla, and
> try to contribute in that area.
>
> Chris Gastin
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 3:39 PM
> Subject: RE: Editable Fields V/S Static Text
>
>
> >
> > --- Edgar P Dollin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I think it is more than a 'preference' based on the rapidity with which
> > > INVALID or WONTFIX is stamped on tag suggestions and patches.
> >
> > I can't speak for anyone else but here is my view on the tags:
> >
> > There are 3 things that earn my -1 on tag enhancements:
> > 1.  Functionality already provided by the JSTL.
> > 2.  Functionality that supports non-standard HTML generation.
> > 3.  Tags that don't tie into the Struts core functionality.  These are
> > better suited for the Jakarta Taglibs project.
> >
> > I'm personally open to other tag enhancements.  If you check cvs, you'll
> > see that I have volunteered some time at refactoring and enhancing the
> > tags.
> >
> > Whenever tag extendability enhancements are discussed, we always hear
> > complaints from a vocal minority but no tested working patches show up.  I
> > haven't heard any good suggestions that would make the tags easier to
> > subclass.  If the current factoring isn't good enough, provide patches for
> > something better.
> >
> > The fact is that the current tags work great for my needs so I'm not
> > motivated to spend a bunch of time pondering some ultimate extendability
> > framework.  There's not much we can do without use cases and patches.
> >
> > David
> >
> > >
> > > Perhaps it would be best if the tags were cut loose from struts and a
> > > different group of committers were responsible for them.  I wouldn't,
> > > nor
> > > would I expect anyone else interested in the tags to make any time
> > > commitment with the current 'RULES' placed on the tags, i.e. ONLY emit
> > > HTML
> > > 4.01 or XHMTL 1.0, only a 'thin' layer over standard html tags, etc.
> > >
> > > Edgar
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:23 PM
> > > > To: Struts Developers List
> > > > Subject: Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It's only a "political football" in the sense that most of
> > > > the current
> > > > committers would prefer not to work on the HTML tags.  If other folks
> > > > came to the fore and committed themselves to supporting those tags,
> > > > including writing unit tests and answering questions on the
> > > > user list, I
> > > > don't think you would see much opposition to development in
> > > > that area --
> > > > along with an eventual nomination for committer status for the
> > > > individuals involved so that they can do their work directly.
> > > >
> > > > Asking the existing committers to do all the work isn't the way to
> > > > leverage how open source operates :-).
> > > >
> > > > Asking the existing committers to apply patches (and add unit
> > > > test cases
> > > > that already work), and pestering them until they get around
> > > > to it (or
> > > > nominate you to committer status so you can do it yourself)
> > > > *is* the way
> > > > to leverage how open source operates :-).
> > > >
> > > > Craig
> > > >
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