Surely you could stomach an Old Peculiar or two?  ;-)

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From: "John M. Corro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: Things that use Struts


> Glad to see another cheesehead on the forum, though you hate to hear
someone
> trash talking the beer in Miller town : )
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chappell, Simon P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 3:12 PM
> Subject: RE: Things that use Struts
>
>
> Personally, I quit drinking beer when I arrived on this side of the
> pond. If I can't get CAMRA approved beer then I'll do without! (And
> don't get me started on how bad the tea is over here!!!!!!!)
>
> Simon
>
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> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 2:56 PM
> >To: Struts Users Mailing List
> >Subject: Re: Things that use Struts
> >
> >
> >
> >I am actually partial to Margharitas ;) As if the beer talk
> >was not enough,
> >here we go again ....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Olivier Dinocourt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 01/21/2002
> >07:21:32 AM
> >
> >Please respond to "Struts Users Mailing List"
> >      <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >To:   "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >cc:
> >
> >Subject:  Re: Things that use Struts
> >
> >
> >is it me or do all web developers drink beer ?
> >
> >has anyone made a beer-related web site using Struts ? (which
> >would bring
> >us
> >back to the subject of this thread...)
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Keith Bacon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 2:18 PM
> >Subject: RE: Things that use Struts
> >
> >
> >> is this abuse of this list - had it better stop?
> >> Belgian beer - Rochefort 10, English beer - Youngs Winter
> >Warmer yumm -
> >sorry I got caught up in
> >> it now.
> >> --- "Robert J. Sanford, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > hmmmmmm, beeeeeer.
> >> >
> >> > bass, guiness, newcastle brown ale, harp...
> >> >
> >> > yummy!
> >> >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> > > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 12:09 PM
> >> > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> >> > > Subject: Re: Things that use Struts
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Sorry...I think you'll find the real beer is only to be found in
> >> > > the United
> >> > > Kingdom!
> >> > >
> >> > > D.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Arron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 01/18/2002
> >> > > 07:35:53 AM
> >> > >
> >> > > Please respond to "Struts Users Mailing List"
> >> > >       <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > >
> >> > > To:   Struts Users Mailing List
> >> > >       <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > > cc:    (bcc: David Hay/Lex/Lexmark)
> >> > > Subject:  Re: Things that use Struts
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Go to www.JBoss.org
> >> > > Apparently they're starting to give the larger boys a stir!
> >> > >
> >> > > More importantly, I need to comment on the beer issue.
> >The foster's
> >you
> >> > > have up there is a US company with an AUS label. The
> >only real beer,
> >is
> >> > > the beer down here!
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Arron.
> >> > >
> >> > > Mark Galbreath wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > >My point was more towards the issue of Tomcat not being an EJB
> >> > > container and
> >> > > >the apparent scope of the company would make EJBs mandatory for
> >handling
> >> > > >data access.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >But I know what you mean about a company getting cheap on you.
> >> > > I am forced
> >> > > >to used JRun (chosen solely based on the price),
> >arguablly the worst
> >app
> >> > > >server on the planet.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >And stop sending that Foster's crap up here - we want real beer!
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Cheers!
> >> > > >Mark
> >> > > >
> >> > > >-----Original Message-----
> >> > > >From: Dan Washusen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> > > >Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:50 PM
> >> > > >To: Struts Users Mailing List
> >> > > >Subject: RE: Things that use Struts
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Like I said, it's only a proof of concept.  The company in
> >> > > question is used
> >> > > >to paying a LOT of money for it's application servers,
> >apparently
> >they
> >> > > >almost jumped at the chance at cutting that cost to near
> >> > > nothing... I'm only
> >> > > >a lowly dev on the project and don't really know any of
> >the politics
> >> > > >associated.  At the moment the only technical issues I
> >am aware of
> >with
> >> > > >tomcat is it's comparably ineffective method of session
> >> > > management and fail
> >> > > >over (being restricted to one apache instance for the
> >tomcat sticky
> >> > > >sessions).
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Anyway, I just thought you might like to know about it.  We are
> >> > > definitely
> >> > > >using Struts, Tomcat may change due to the above issue.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >-----Original Message-----
> >> > > >From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> > > >Sent: Friday, 18 January 2002 12:23 PM
> >> > > >To: Struts Users Mailing List
> >> > > >Subject: Re: Things that use Struts
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >"One of Australias' biggest sites?"  How are you going to that
> >> > > with Tomcat?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Cheers!
> >> > > >Mark
> >> > > >
> >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >From: "Dan Washusen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > > >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > > >Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 8:02 PM
> >> > > >Subject: RE: Things that use Struts
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >>Hey everyone,
> >> > > >>I'm currently working on a proof of concept for a
> >re-write of one
> >of
> >> > > >>Australia's biggest sites (just under a million
> >searches a month).
> >The
> >> > > >>proof of concept runs the front end (presentation
> >layer) on Linux
> >with
> >> > > >>Tomcat 4 and Struts.  I'll keep you posted on how it
> >goes (so far
> >so
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >good).
> >> > > >
> >> > > >>There is even some talk of Lucene being used.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>Needless to say, we are very impressed with both
> >Tomcat and Struts.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>Cheers,
> >> > > >>Dan
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> >> > > >>From: Stuart Charlton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> > > >>Sent: Friday, 18 January 2002 10:01 AM
> >> > > >>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> >> > > >>Subject: Things that use Struts
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>Hi everyone,
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>I've been a Struts developer and lurker since 1.0 was first
> >released
> >and
> >> > > >>have been pushing it in a big way within my company...
> >Just wanted
> >to
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >throw
> >> > > >
> >> > > >>in my two cents about where we're using Struts for
> >people who are
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >wondering
> >> > > >
> >> > > >>whether Struts is right for their project, or if it
> >can tackle a
> >large
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >scale
> >> > > >
> >> > > >>system.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>a) We have a subcontract that's replacing a system for
> >a division
> >of
> >the
> >> > > >>U.S. Navy.  This system is replacing 1.5 million lines of COBOL
> >> > > code with
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >a
> >> > > >
> >> > > >>J2EE solution using Struts, WebLogic and TOPLink.
> >After 3 months
> >of
> >> > > >>development is nearly 60,000 lines of code and will be around
> >150,000 by
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >the
> >> > > >
> >> > > >>time we're done.  Most of the screens are pretty
> >static, but this
> >is
> >> > > >>definitely a huge system, and Struts' design paradigm
> >has scaled
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >gracefully
> >> > > >
> >> > > >>(with a lot of help from TOPLink).
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>b) One of our financial clients is using a web-based inventory
> >> > > system for
> >> > > >>trading whole loans & mortgages.  This will be refactored to
> >incorporate
> >> > > >>Struts over the next several months (currently it's a bit icky,
> >> > > somewhere
> >> > > >>between JSP model 0 or 1 in terms of modularity).
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>c) Our new venture with Random House,
> >http://www.codenotes.com/ was
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >written
> >> > > >
> >> > > >>completely with Struts on JRun.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>Struts is a great framework, the code is clean enough
> >to eat off
> >of,
> >and
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >it
> >> > > >
> >> > > >>really makes J2EE sing.  With a lot of the new whiz-bang
> >> > > ASP.NET features
> >> > > >>coming down the pipe, I think Struts really is what's keeping
> >> > > JSP/Servlet
> >> > > >>development competitive....
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>Cheers
> >> > > >>Stu Charlton
> >> > > >>Senior Architect / Trainer, Infusion Development
> >> > > >>Disclaimer:  Everything in this message is the opinion of your
> >humble
> >> > > >>correspondent and is not necessarily the opinion of Infusion
> >Development
> >> > > >>corp.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
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