On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Stuart Robertson wrote:

> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:35:43 -0400
> From: Stuart Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: DynaActionFormBean Advantages -- Complicates JSTL usage?
>
> This is really a question, since I'm not familiar with the details of
> how DynaBretheren pull off their magic.
>
> To what extent does reliance on DynaActionForm beans tie the view impl
> to using Struts tags?  Does using DynaStuff require that tags use the
> commons introspection utils?  Specifically, would a JSTL-based set of
> tags see Dyna properties as regular properties?
>

DynaActonForms use the commons-beanutils stuff for their magic, and the
introspection performed by JSTL won't work on them.  (Unless, of course,
we were to implement JSTL ourselves inside of Struts ...).

> If DynaActionForms don't trick the regular introspection mechanisms into
> thinking they have javabean properties, then I would consider that a
> major disadvantage.  JSTL is compelling...

Yep.

>
> <totally-unrelated-question-for-Craig>
> Regarding cool tag developments, if Craig is reading this, is there any
> info you can share about JSR 127?  I know your team's working hard on it
> now.

It's just entering Community Review in the JCP process.

>  One question I have in particular (if I may :-) is that it seems a
> framework using Faces would have controller logic interacting with these
> gui components/widgets.  Given that none of the servlet frameworks were
> built with Faces in mind, upon its release will any of our favorite
> frameworks be able to use it without major refactoring?

Well, I care most about the framework we all know and love :-).  We're
trying to make it possible to integrate Faces into existing controller
frameworks in fairly flexible ways -- for Struts, my goal is that you'll
be able to use Faces in your JSP pages with zero changes to the actions,
with only some tweaks to your config files and an extra JAR or two.

>  ...ok, I have
> lots of other questions, but will go back to pretending to wait
> paitiently like everybody else.
> </totally-unrelated-question-for-Craig>
>

Craig



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