On Sat, 2002-08-17 at 01:40, Dan Cancro wrote:
> It sounds like a good school.  I think the biggest barrier to XP adoption is
> a mindset some folks (like me) developed in school to "do one's own work".
> I'm so happy to hear that cooperation is valued at your school.  It sounds
> like XP might solve the problem where one guy in the group doesn't do
> anything, making it hard to give fair grades.  If that's the case, students
> can finally learn in the same manner they will eventually need to work.
> They should teach probably XP in kindergarten.

Sounds about right.  I love the fact that it's so open, and that you
can't "hide your code" and you can't pretend you're making effort when
you're not, and everyone has to be brutally honest - 'cause you're gonna
get found out if you're not.  It's totally what we need!  I know the
first time I get myself into an XP team (which will happen) I'll sh*t a
brick or two to begin with, but being completely self taught I totally
understand the worth in learning from other people.  I envisage that
saying something stupid in an XP team won't result in the same kind of
reaction that it would provoke in a 'traditional' team (where for some
strange reason the focus often appears to be oneupmanship and code
ownership - maybe that's just my experience, I don't pretend to be an
expert).

Rather like this mailing list, actually - plenty of new users have said
things that could be construed as stupid (newbie questions that could be
easily answered by reading the manual) - but I am surprised - and
encouraged by the responses that these users receive from the list.

> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jacob Hookom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 2:36 PM
> > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > Subject: RE: XP (and not the Microsoft kind)
> > 
> > 
> > Actually, in all the market slump and government funding cutbacks, our
> > CS department is growing-- dramatically, in addition, it's accredited
> > for CS, so it's not second rate ;-)
> > 
> > Jacob Hookom
> > University of Wisconsin, Eau Claire
> 
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