Heh-heh. I agree with you, though I started life with a Commie 64 and learned BASIC. My next machine was a Mac 512 and learned C on it and the college's Unix system (and I always hated HyperCard). I actually was using REXX on a Sequoia 6000 and JCL on an IBM 370 before I ever learned how to program a DOS/Windows system. And though I never learned LISP, I did dabble in Scheme for awhile.
I disagree with your opinion of FORTRAN users, however. The engineers gave the Real Programmers the algorithms, who then coded the app. Nevertheless, this is a topic that evokes perennial interest on struts-users. Mark Cogito ergo spud (I think, therefore I yam.) -----Original Message----- From: Brian Hickey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 7:54 AM Mark, Re: Struts List et al Apologies for the off list contact. I read the "So you want to be a real programmer" note and I was ROTFL! I should explain that I was writing IBM 370/Assembler when that era happened. I did not, however opt for a TRS 80... a Real Programmer owned an Osborn computer (CPM was the OS). I don't know what age you are (none of my business) but I offer that LISP actually pre-dates FORTRAN and that FORTRAN was for ENGINEERS not Real Programmers. Real Programmers wrote in Assembler and LISP with the occasional maverick (me) who wrote in Algol. I also can confirm that I never spoke in capitol letters... LOL! I have, however, acquired this idiotic habit of using emoticons in emails which, I presume, imparts some semblance of emotion to an otherwise black and white email. Such is life. Adds: Real programmers don't use Prolog Real programmers do use SmallTalk Real programmers don't use Macs because they could never find the correlation between Hypercard editors and the OS (aka - there was no DOS window). Have a great weekend! Brian Hickey Codito ergo sum -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

