Come to think of it, I've known many engineers (especially EEs) who have learned to program, but no programmer who has learned engineering. Not being a mathematician, engineer nor CPA, I've always relied on the experts to give me the algorithms to implement.
Mark (Ph.D. in American history) -----Original Message----- From: John Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 10:49 AM Computer Science at Tulane University was under Engineering. When asked why we were learning FORTRAN at all in our accelerated first semester FORTRAN/Pascal class, the professor replied, "You are not an engineer if you do not know FORTRAN". ----- Original Message ----- From: "Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Heh-heh. I agree with you, though I started life with a Commie 64 and > learned BASIC. My next machine was a Mac 512 and learned C on it and the > college's Unix system (and I always hated HyperCard). I actually was using > REXX on a Sequoia 6000 and JCL on an IBM 370 before I ever learned how to > program a DOS/Windows system. And though I never learned LISP, I did dabble > in Scheme for awhile. > > I disagree with your opinion of FORTRAN users, however. The engineers gave > the Real Programmers the algorithms, who then coded the app. > > Nevertheless, this is a topic that evokes perennial interest on > struts-users. > > > Mark > Cogito ergo spud > (I think, therefore I yam.) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Hickey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 7:54 AM > > Mark, > > Re: Struts List et al > > Apologies for the off list contact. I read the "So you want to be a real > programmer" note and I was ROTFL! I should explain that I was writing IBM > 370/Assembler when that era happened. I did not, however opt for a TRS 80... > a Real Programmer owned an Osborn computer (CPM was the OS). > > I don't know what age you are (none of my business) but I offer that LISP > actually pre-dates FORTRAN and that FORTRAN was for ENGINEERS not Real > Programmers. Real Programmers wrote in Assembler and LISP with the > occasional maverick (me) who wrote in Algol. > > I also can confirm that I never spoke in capitol letters... LOL! I have, > however, acquired this idiotic habit of using emoticons in emails which, I > presume, imparts some semblance of emotion to an otherwise black and white > email. Such is life. > > Adds: > Real programmers don't use Prolog > Real programmers do use SmallTalk > Real programmers don't use Macs because they could never find the > correlation between > Hypercard editors and the OS (aka - there was no DOS window). > > Have a great weekend! > > Brian Hickey > > Codito ergo sum -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

