Simon,

All I have to say is:

Jellied Eels and Mash, and Black pudding - What's that about?  ;-) 
Your countrymen must have been really bored to think that up.  ;-)

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/20/02 02:40PM >>>
This, sadly, fits the observed facts. I'd always hoped for so much more
of you Yankees though.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 1:37 PM
>To: Struts Users Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [42] Real Programmers
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>Didn't you know that our battle for freedom was merely a 
>battle to obtain
>the right to sleep in? America has become a land of project 
>managers, you
>Brits get to be the on-site "engineers". ;)
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Chappell, Simon P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 1:32 PM
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>How does this explain why you've been late for every decent 
>sized dust-up
>ever since? And, ask us for help everytime you need some 
>serious whooping
>done? :-)
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: John Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>>Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 12:32 PM
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>>Subject: Re: [42] Real Programmers
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>>Yeah, I mean all you need to know is that our history started with
an
>>historic ass-whooping... ;)
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Chappell, Simon P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 12:13 PM
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>>American History!? How hard can that be? You don't have enough
>>history to
>>fill a whole book! They give Ph.D's out for that!? ;-)
>>
>>Simon "Yet Another British Troublemaker" Chappell
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>>>Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 11:51 AM
>>>To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
>>>Subject: RE: [42] Real Programmers
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>>>haha!  You know us liberal arts types are the most creative
>>>thinkers, you
>>>Luddite!
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Joe Barefoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>>>Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 12:42 PM
>>>
>>>A-ha!!!  He admits it, finally...get the torches and
>>>pitchforks everyone!
>>>
>>>;)
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 8:16 AM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Come to think of it, I've known many engineers (especially
>>>> EEs) who have
>>>> learned to program, but no programmer who has learned
>>>> engineering.  Not
>>>> being a mathematician, engineer nor CPA, I've always relied
>>>> on the experts
>>>> to give me the algorithms to implement.
>>>>
>>>> Mark (Ph.D. in American history)
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