Sorry, A Brit here! Was asleep while all this was going on. Not that I'm knocking Marks wonderfull, if a little ranting come the end, soapbox comment BUT ........
Power looms were invetned by Edmund Cartwright in 1785 in Doncaster, England. I'll let you have Eli Whitney for the cotton gin (1790ish), but it is just basically an addapted wool flauxer (Rips the rough wool so it can be spun) earliest model in a museum in wales well before 1700. (And as a side line, we, yes us in Blighty, invented gin) Inter-changeable parts. NO, NO, NO. You may not lay clame to that one! The bloody romans had inter-changeable parts on thier sodding plows!!! For god sake man. Just cause it's on a bit of paper with the word patient on the top does not mean you invented the bloody thing. Taylorism (The earliest recorded Americanism!!) was derived by Taylor form Upton Sinclair (An other bloody yank) who I have suspected for years of pinching it from my great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather, who found if he feed his slaves they lived longer. Nikola Tesla (You may have heard of him), who build the first remotely control "Robot" was Serbian. He may have lived in America, but then again most American inventions have come from foriegn-nationals (Manely, British, Russian and German) who have, "Just nipped out for a packet of cigs", and never come back home to the good ol' U of K. Hitler, now we invented him, he is ours ...... opps that's still in the top secret pile! Shit, forget I said that. Now go about your business people, go on, move along, nothing to see here. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Galbreath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 5:44 PM Subject: RE: [OT] how do people work in project with one server for development <soapbox> That is way too simplistic, dude. Creativity is the catalyst for innovation. Stifle developers' ability to be creative and you lose innovation. American innovation have been so great over the centuries because business owners realized the value in R&D and being the first to patent a new innovation. That's what drove productivity and profits from the invention of the power loom to the cotton gin, interchangeable parts, Taylorism (scientific management), robotics, and software. What Simon is talking about are companies (or divisions) run by short-sighted people interested more often than not with their immediate personal welfare and/or the blind enforcement of a theoretical policy. Even a fascist pig like Hitler was responsible for the most innovative advances in weaponry in a 100 years not because he dictated policy, but because he gave his scientists freedom to innovate. </soapbox> Mark -----Original Message----- From: Michael C. Lee Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:21 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] how do people work in project with one server for development I'm sorry, I have to repond to this communist drivel. "Welcome to Corporate America. Please leave your innovation at home, it will not be required at the office." No, that is your company...Landsend by the looks of it. And last I looked, Corporate America had more innovations per capita than Cuba or other similiar 'non-Corporate' countries. Landsend, and most other countries, want to make a profit. That is a motivating factor to innovate. Michael Lee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chappell, Simon P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:17 AM Subject: RE: [OT] how do people work in project with one server for development As discussed in previous conversations, I am here for geographical/religious reasons and my employer is where you work if you're a programmer in this town. Many aspects of the company are good, but once in a while the stuff flowing downhill is crazier than usual. >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:03 AM >To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' >Subject: RE: [OT] how do people work in project with one server for >development > > >That sucks! I would have to be desperate to work in such an >environment! > >-----Original Message----- >From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:57 AM > >If only it were that simple. Some of us get WAS handed down to us from >a being so far up the corporate ladder that it still has frost >on it. This >same breather of rarified air, then also decides that once >you're using WAS, >you should naturally use WSAD for your IDE. Oh ... and they're >going to lock >down workstations, so that you can't install free stuff on there to use >instead. > >Welcome to Corporate America. 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