You read into it what you will, but the topic was software innovation in corporate America. I was making an extreme point. If this offends you, perhaps you take yourself too seriously.
Mark -----Original Message----- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] how do people work in project with one server for development Now we're onto Hitler? This is way too off topic even for posts designated [OT]. David >From: "Mark Galbreath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [OT] how do people work in project with one server for >development >Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:44:27 -0500 > ><soapbox> >That is way too simplistic, dude. Creativity is the catalyst for >innovation. Stifle developers' ability to be creative and you lose >innovation. American innovation have been so great over the centuries >because business owners realized the value in R&D and being the first >to patent a new innovation. That's what drove productivity and profits >from the invention of the power loom to the cotton gin, interchangeable >parts, Taylorism (scientific management), robotics, and software. What >Simon is talking about are companies (or divisions) run by >short-sighted people interested more often than not with their >immediate personal welfare and/or the blind enforcement of a >theoretical policy. Even a fascist pig like Hitler was responsible for >the most innovative advances in weaponry in a 100 years not because he >dictated policy, but because he gave his scientists freedom to >innovate. </soapbox> > >Mark > >-----Original Message----- >From: Michael C. Lee Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:21 AM >To: Struts Users Mailing List >Subject: Re: [OT] how do people work in project with one server for >development > > >I'm sorry, I have to repond to this communist drivel. > >"Welcome to Corporate America. Please leave your innovation at home, it >will >not be required at the office." No, that is your company...Landsend by the >looks of it. And last I looked, Corporate America had more innovations per >capita than Cuba or other similiar 'non-Corporate' countries. Landsend, and >most other countries, want to make a profit. That is a motivating factor to >innovate. Michael Lee > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Chappell, Simon P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:17 AM >Subject: RE: [OT] how do people work in project with one server for >development > > >As discussed in previous conversations, I am here for >geographical/religious >reasons and my employer is where you work if you're a programmer in this >town. Many aspects of the company are good, but once in a while the stuff >flowing downhill is crazier than usual. > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:03 AM > >To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > >Subject: RE: [OT] how do people work in project with one server for > >development > > > > > >That sucks! I would have to be desperate to work in such an > >environment! > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:57 AM > > > >If only it were that simple. Some of us get WAS handed down to us > >from a being so far up the corporate ladder that it still has frost > >on it. This same breather of rarified air, then also decides that > >once you're using WAS, > >you should naturally use WSAD for your IDE. Oh ... and they're > >going to lock > >down workstations, so that you can't install free stuff on there to use > >instead. > > > >Welcome to Corporate America. Please leave your innovation at home, > >it will not be required at the office. > > > >Simon > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

