Well, i am using weblogic 5.1, which seems to be the most ignorant servlet container I 
have ever used.  It requires explicit paths to EVERY class, so I have to reference the 
root of my packages (i.e. WEB-INF/classes) and EVERY individual jar file that needs to 
be referenced at run time, even if they are placed in WEB-INF/lib.  Normally I would 
leave things as is, but my classpath is rediculous as is, and it seems like all these 
jars combined with replaced about eight individual entries with one commons-*.jar file.

Do you follow my logic?
Jason


-------Original Message-------
From: Chris Trawick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 02/21/03 08:46 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Re: combining commons-*.jar

> 
> What is cleaning up the classpath about anyway?  For building?  Ant takes
care of that, just use a lib directory.  For deployment?  Try /WEB-INF/lib
or use your container's libdir.

Coupling all the commons products together violates their designed
modularity and introduces bloat.  I personally don't have warm fuzzies
about
bundling 8 megs of fluff with every war and passing it around between
different servers.  It especially gets in the way of JBoss, when a large
transfer (even just filesystem-to-filesystem) can cause the deployer to
hose
itself by trying to load the thing before it's actually there.

Then again, maybe your situation is different...

chris

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From: "Jason Vinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: Re: combining commons-*.jar


> So if there was an upgrade, i could just rebundle them all correct?  If
that's the only drawback, I think I may go ahead and combine them.  Anyone
else care to comment?
>
> Jason
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
> From: Ian Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 02/21/03 08:32 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: combining commons-*.jar
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> >
> > If one component was upgraded, you'd have to replace the whole
shootin'
> match.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason Vinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:28 AM
> Subject: combining commons-*.jar
>
>
> > This may be a dumb question, but is there any reason to not combine
all
> the commons-*.jar libraries into one jar file?  I am attempting to clean
> up
> our server's classpath, and combining all these jars would really help
> out.
> >
> > TIA,
> > Jason
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