Not a word of a lie Andy. The senior architect (There can be only one!! ;-) is on a little under 200K uk pounds, but note this is a *wage* not an hourly rate he gets that a year plus bonuses, only the gardes 1 and 2 get the OT and *only* if it is absolutely necessary and I think one of the grade 3s got it once one mad weekend but that would have been a very special case. And remember this is London, not Chiswick (Look it up in a map book, I can't remeber where it is) and a one bedroom flat can set you back the best part of 150K+ and that's not in the best bits.
You could probably knock the best part of 40% off outside of London, although Bristol pay is heading in that direction if you get in the right company. Cheers Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:32 AM Subject: RE: [OT] Contract Work: Going Rate? > These are USD per HOUR? > > Crikey! You could retire after a couple of years on that! > Nah that cant be right. I did a bit under 3000 hours last year, multiply by > 30 and convert to local currency adds up to more than Ive earned in my whole > working life (4+ years). A lot more... > > Are those fair dinkum rates or are you just having us on? > > Five weeks holiday??? OT pay??? > > Yeh. Thought so. Its a joke. hehe. You had me going there mate! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2003 16:08 > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: Re: [OT] Contract Work: Going Rate? > > > These are some going full time rates for a London based e-learning company, > for an average of 1880 hrs worked in one year (Five weeks holiday not > included in the figures, but you'd get the same rate). The company pays OT > on projects that need it, but actually limit the number of hours in a week > that an employee can be in the office. (Something about a work/life balance, > whatver than means :-) > > All in US dollars (converted from blighty pounds) > > Grade one (Whipping boy) - 30$ > Grade two (Code monkey) - 40$ > Grade three (Designer) - 55$ > Grade four (Architect) - 90$ > Grade five (Senior Architect) - 150$ > > These don't include the options and bonuses (last xmas bonus ranged from > 500$ to 6000$) and the OT isn't in there (Usually 1.5*hourly week-day/sat -- > 2*hourly sun). > > Contractor have to pay all the insurance and stuff, so I'd dap about 22-40% > on top of each of these + a little extra if your gonna have to live in an > expensive part of town. > > NOTE to the lawer. It only becomes illegal if it can be proven that we have > set a level of pay *and* have all agreed to follow this level. If you've > been on here long enough, you'd know *noone* ever agrees about anything!! > =]:0) > > Good luck with the job, I hear California is nice this time of year!! > > Cheers > > Simon > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Micael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Struts > Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:08 AM > Subject: RE: [OT] Contract Work: Going Rate? > > > > I hope you know that my prior response that the lawyer should be fired was > > not aimed at you, Tammy. I appreciate your assistance. I think it is > > really funny, however, that a lawyer would actually associate what we are > > doing with antitrust behavior. Heck, I feel bigger and better > > now. LOL! That lawyer needs to get the tune to match the lyrics. > > > > At 08:49 PM 3/26/03 -0800, Tammy Cravit wrote: > > > > general landscape well (Tomcat, Struts, Ant, etc., etc., with Linux, > > > > scripting, various databases, etc.). What would a reasonable request > > > > be? Thanks. > > > > > >First of all, I would caution about asking questions like this on a > > >mailing list, as the discussion of hourly rates and stuff came up on > > >another list I belong to and the moderators there obtained an opinion > > >from a lawyer that discussing pricing in terms of specific dollar > > >amounts in a group like this could be deemed price-fixing by the courts, > > >which is illegal. > > > > > >That having been said, one common rule of thumb seems to be to divide > > >your annual salary as an employee by 1000, and using that as a starting > > >point for figuring out your hourly rate. 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