DAMN and blast my grade school math!!! I messed up a couple of the calculations, so from 1 to 5 it is in US dollars (Rounded up to the nearest dollar) 20, 28, 40, 80, 172. And the employee count (roughly); 20( grade 1 & 2), 4, 3, 1.
And just as a rough guesstimate at the first quater of a liftimes earnings will be about 400,000 uk pounds in about 16 years for a standard worker (no uni education) working from 18 years old started work in 1987 (Based on uk average wage) which is about 14 uk pounds an hour. Senior executive, same time line (last quater of working life) would be looking at anything from 1.6M to 82.5M+ As you may have guessed, I have nothing to do at the moment (waiting on an "executive decission") =]:0) Cheers Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [OT] Contract Work: Going Rate? > Not a word of a lie Andy. The senior architect (There can be only one!! ;-) > is on a little under 200K uk pounds, but note this is a *wage* not an hourly > rate he gets that a year plus bonuses, only the gardes 1 and 2 get the OT > and *only* if it is absolutely necessary and I think one of the grade 3s got > it once one mad weekend but that would have been a very special case. And > remember this is London, not Chiswick (Look it up in a map book, I can't > remeber where it is) and a one bedroom flat can set you back the best part > of 150K+ and that's not in the best bits. > > You could probably knock the best part of 40% off outside of London, > although Bristol pay is heading in that direction if you get in the right > company. > > Cheers > > Simon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:32 AM > Subject: RE: [OT] Contract Work: Going Rate? > > > > These are USD per HOUR? > > > > Crikey! You could retire after a couple of years on that! > > Nah that cant be right. I did a bit under 3000 hours last year, multiply > by > > 30 and convert to local currency adds up to more than Ive earned in my > whole > > working life (4+ years). A lot more... > > > > Are those fair dinkum rates or are you just having us on? > > > > Five weeks holiday??? OT pay??? > > > > Yeh. Thought so. Its a joke. hehe. You had me going there mate! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Simon Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2003 16:08 > > To: Struts Users Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [OT] Contract Work: Going Rate? > > > > > > These are some going full time rates for a London based e-learning > company, > > for an average of 1880 hrs worked in one year (Five weeks holiday not > > included in the figures, but you'd get the same rate). The company pays > OT > > on projects that need it, but actually limit the number of hours in a week > > that an employee can be in the office. (Something about a work/life > balance, > > whatver than means :-) > > > > All in US dollars (converted from blighty pounds) > > > > Grade one (Whipping boy) - 30$ > > Grade two (Code monkey) - 40$ > > Grade three (Designer) - 55$ > > Grade four (Architect) - 90$ > > Grade five (Senior Architect) - 150$ > > > > These don't include the options and bonuses (last xmas bonus ranged from > > 500$ to 6000$) and the OT isn't in there (Usually 1.5*hourly > week-day/sat -- > > 2*hourly sun). > > > > Contractor have to pay all the insurance and stuff, so I'd dap about > 22-40% > > on top of each of these + a little extra if your gonna have to live in an > > expensive part of town. > > > > NOTE to the lawer. It only becomes illegal if it can be proven that we > have > > set a level of pay *and* have all agreed to follow this level. If you've > > been on here long enough, you'd know *noone* ever agrees about anything!! > > =]:0) > > > > Good luck with the job, I hear California is nice this time of year!! > > > > Cheers > > > > Simon > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Micael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Struts > > Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:08 AM > > Subject: RE: [OT] Contract Work: Going Rate? > > > > > > > I hope you know that my prior response that the lawyer should be fired > was > > > not aimed at you, Tammy. I appreciate your assistance. I think it is > > > really funny, however, that a lawyer would actually associate what we > are > > > doing with antitrust behavior. Heck, I feel bigger and better > > > now. LOL! That lawyer needs to get the tune to match the lyrics. > > > > > > At 08:49 PM 3/26/03 -0800, Tammy Cravit wrote: > > > > > general landscape well (Tomcat, Struts, Ant, etc., etc., with Linux, > > > > > scripting, various databases, etc.). What would a reasonable > request > > > > > be? Thanks. > > > > > > > >First of all, I would caution about asking questions like this on a > > > >mailing list, as the discussion of hourly rates and stuff came up on > > > >another list I belong to and the moderators there obtained an opinion > > > >from a lawyer that discussing pricing in terms of specific dollar > > > >amounts in a group like this could be deemed price-fixing by the > courts, > > > >which is illegal. > > > > > > > >That having been said, one common rule of thumb seems to be to divide > > > >your annual salary as an employee by 1000, and using that as a starting > > > >point for figuring out your hourly rate. 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