I think Linus' requirements are wrong. Books on J2EE patterns in general, and "Core J2EE Patterns" in particular, are not worth reading.
Change the requirement to books that provide useful patterns for J2EE applications, and you get the answer you want, which is Fowler's "Patterns of Enterprise Application Archectecture". "Unit testing in Java" sounds interesting. I too am in search of a WebLogic book. I have one on my desk, and have perused the Amazon comments. I plan to visit a bookshop later this week and buy one. I will try to post a review view once I have read one. Brendan -----Original Message----- From: Laurent PETIT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 4:06 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OFF TOPIC] Book recommendations (J2EE, Struts, JUnit, EJB, Weblogic) Hello, I'm looking for a good book related to the "Test first driven development" area. I browsed the amazon customer reviews for the classical books on the subject (Kent Beck, ...) but was still afraid of something : are this book really connected to reality when you have to deal with "real" projects (what I mean here by real project could be : a web version of an enterprise application to deal with its products, employees, commercials, ..., not just a project to build an Euro converter or a bowling scorer (*), ... which does'nt really speak to me and prove to me that those techniques may scale well and prove benefits in my area of concern). I found one book that seems REALLY interesting on the subject : "Unit testing in Java", by Johannes Link and Peter Frohlich. It seems to address topic as testing in web apps, with databases involved, asynchronous processes (do you know a recent application which doesn't have to send or receive emails in its requirements ? ...) But there are only 3 reviews on the book, the book itself is very young (April 2003), so I wonder if you folks in this mailing list have read it, and maybe may give us some other point of view ?? Thanks in advance, -- Laurent (*) : In fact, I really enjoyed the reading of the paper on the bowling scorer pair programming and TDD I found on the objectmentor website, but after reading it, one question still occurs to me : well, ok, but what in real projects, and with "real programmers" that aren't senior consultants of a brilliant society ? "Linus Nikander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit dans le message news: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Thank you for the reply. But I'm looking for books, not online articles or > documentation. I know I can probably find book recommendations at the sites > you point to, but I was trying to save myself the effort of searching for > them and of evaluating their recommendations by posting to this group > instead. > > //Linus Nikander > > "message message" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > J2EE PATTERNS - www.JAVA.SUN.COM > > Struts - struts in action. > > JUNIT - Eclipse - free IDE comes with documenttion on JUNIT > /www.junit.org > > EJB - www.JAVA.SUN.COM > > Weblogic - Weblogic saleman. > > > > > > >From: "Linus Nikander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: [OFF TOPIC] Book recommendations (J2EE, Struts, JUnit, EJB, > > >Weblogic) > > >Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:24:17 +0200 > > > > > >Browsing peoples comments at amazon might be rewarding, but it sure takes > a > > >lot of time. I'm trying to find good (best) books for a couple of > > >java-related areas. As most people who subscribe to this newsgroup > probably > > >have a bunch of books at home this should be the ideal place to ask for > > >recommendations. So, what are your recommendations for good books on > > >any/all > > >of the following subjects: > > > > > >J2EE Patterns > > >Struts > > >JUnit (or testing in general, JUnit seems to be one of the most widely > > >accepted, haven't seen a lot of books for it though) > > >EJB (more interested in performance tuning, best practices etc, not EJB > as > > >a > > >technology) > > >Weblogic 7.x or 8.x (Administration, tuning, best practices for EJBs and > > >enterprise solutions) > > > > > >All recommendations appreciated. > > > > > >//Linus Nikander - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ----- Original Message ----- From: "message message" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [OFF TOPIC] Book recommendations (J2EE, Struts, JUnit, EJB, Weblogic) > > > > Struts in Action is a book. > Good luck with your specific requirements. > > >From: "Linus Nikander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [OFF TOPIC] Book recommendations (J2EE, Struts, JUnit, EJB, > >Weblogic) > >Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:44:07 +0200 > > > >Thank you for the reply. But I'm looking for books, not online articles or > >documentation. I know I can probably find book recommendations at the sites > >you point to, but I was trying to save myself the effort of searching for > >them and of evaluating their recommendations by posting to this group > >instead. > > > >//Linus Nikander > > > >"message message" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > J2EE PATTERNS - www.JAVA.SUN.COM > > > Struts - struts in action. > > > JUNIT - Eclipse - free IDE comes with documenttion on JUNIT > >/www.junit.org > > > EJB - www.JAVA.SUN.COM > > > Weblogic - Weblogic saleman. > > > > > > > > > >From: "Linus Nikander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Subject: [OFF TOPIC] Book recommendations (J2EE, Struts, JUnit, EJB, > > > >Weblogic) > > > >Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:24:17 +0200 > > > > > > > >Browsing peoples comments at amazon might be rewarding, but it sure > >takes > >a > > > >lot of time. I'm trying to find good (best) books for a couple of > > > >java-related areas. As most people who subscribe to this newsgroup > >probably > > > >have a bunch of books at home this should be the ideal place to ask for > > > >recommendations. So, what are your recommendations for good books on > > > >any/all > > > >of the following subjects: > > > > > > > >J2EE Patterns > > > >Struts > > > >JUnit (or testing in general, JUnit seems to be one of the most widely > > > >accepted, haven't seen a lot of books for it though) > > > >EJB (more interested in performance tuning, best practices etc, not EJB > >as > > > >a > > > >technology) > > > >Weblogic 7.x or 8.x (Administration, tuning, best practices for EJBs > >and > > > >enterprise solutions) > > > > > > > >All recommendations appreciated. > > > > > > > >//Linus Nikander - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. 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