Okay, OT is okay as far as it goes but lets not turn the struts mailing
list into a forum for the great Sydney/Melbourne rivalry. Please.
Anyway, everyone knows that Canberra is best. :-)
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hi!
thanks for the suggestion. that is pretty much what i had decided to do ie
write something and try and market it.
however i'd beg to differ on the weather.
i dont think cold, grey, wet, clammy, uncertain weather qualifies as good
weather esp compared to the sunny predictable weather down here.
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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> ajay,
>
> The best way to demonstrate you skills is to look for an idea and write
> something and sell it, you end up as your own boss and you gain the
> experience.
>
> You seem to think the no-experience vs employeers want experience issue
is
> new, but it was the same 15 years or so ago when I started out. You can
> sit around and frett about it or just get on with it yourself.
>
> If you want to work for someone else, that is fine, you just need to
> work hard and you'll do fine, there are so many lazy programmers out in
> the market these days that there is a shortage of dedicated professional
> graduates.
>
> Thirdly, move down to Melbourne, the weather is nicer down here:)
>
> Chris
>
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, ajay wrote:
>
> > when: 2004
> > where: sydney
> > citizenship: australian
> >
> > the problem though is that most people here thesedays want some level
of
> > experience before they are willing to hire you, the trend is a lot
towards
> > contract/temp jobs.
> > the problem ofcourse is where to get that elusive experience, and uni
> project
> > experience doesn't count for anything.
> > so you have this cycle where you are looking to get some experience
and
> most
> > companies want only experienced personnel.
> > and when it comes to tax i believe australia has one of the world's
highest
> tax
> > rate, and sydney is way too pricey.
> >
> > but what i would like to know is whats the scenario outside, like int
he
> > states, singapore, UK etc. is there a good demand for qualified but
> > inexperienced IT graduates. would a move abroad be good?
> >
> >
> > Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> >
> > > Jiin-Her hits the nail on the head
> > > I certainly wouldn't want to make 50K while living in Boston or New
> York
> > > City...
> > > Here's the cost of living for Herndon VA
> > >
> http://realestate.yahoo.com/re/neighborhood/search.html?sa=&c=Herndon&s=VA&z=
> > >
> > > Cost of living (taxes, expenses, insurance, etc...) can change from
town
> > > to town even. As the add says you need to move to Herndon VA to live
on
> > > that 50K. ;)
> > >
> > > -R^3
> > >
> > > On Wed, 4 Feb 2004, Jiin-Her Lu wrote:
> > >
> > > > Depends on when, where, and what is your citizenship. It can be up
to
> $
> > > 85000+ in US.
> > > >
> > > > Jiin-Her Lu
> > > > (816) 926-2145
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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