It's pretty simply really. Working Visa's are granted on he basis of demand for skills, being a petrol station attendant won't get you a working visa, being a hospitality worker will.
The jobs market in IT is depressed right, now as just like everyone else, the IT jobs go to India and China who work for 50c / hour. If you look at the job ads on the web here in AU (www.seek.com.au) you will see that a large percentage of them require specilised skills. Working visa points allocation must follow the demand for skills or what is the point of it? Chris On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, Adam Hardy wrote: > Since it's Friday, I thought I'd ask you Aussie java guys what the deal > is on this strange points system Australia has for its working visas. > > I thought for a few years I'd never meet the target, whenever I thought > about moving to down under. I'm too old, too British, not enough > relatives living there etc etc. > > But then I found the Australian visa site and answered several pages of > questions, and then the last one was "Do you have any experience with > Java Security?" - so I clicked the box and with that, it seems I'm > eligible for a visa. > > I tried it all again, and without that Java Security experience, your > lovely government wouldn't want me. > > What's that all about? > > > Adam > > > On 02/05/2004 03:09 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Okay, OT is okay as far as it goes but lets not turn the struts mailing > > list into a forum for the great Sydney/Melbourne rivalry. Please. > > > > Anyway, everyone knows that Canberra is best. :-) > > > > Heya Gosper > > CSC Australia > > 212 Northbourne Ave, Braddon ACT 2612 > > Ph: +61 (0) 2 6246 8155 Fax: +61 (0) 2 62468100 > > MOB: 0401 611779 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is a PRIVATE message. 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You can > >>sit around and frett about it or just get on with it yourself. > >> > >>If you want to work for someone else, that is fine, you just need to > >>work hard and you'll do fine, there are so many lazy programmers out in > >>the market these days that there is a shortage of dedicated professional > >>graduates. > >> > >>Thirdly, move down to Melbourne, the weather is nicer down here:) > >> > >>Chris > >> > >>On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, ajay wrote: > >> > >> > >>>when: 2004 > >>>where: sydney > >>>citizenship: australian > >>> > >>>the problem though is that most people here thesedays want some level > > > > of > > > >>>experience before they are willing to hire you, the trend is a lot > > > > towards > > > >>>contract/temp jobs. > >>>the problem ofcourse is where to get that elusive experience, and uni > >> > >>project > >> > >>>experience doesn't count for anything. > >>>so you have this cycle where you are looking to get some experience > > > > and > > > >>most > >> > >>>companies want only experienced personnel. > >>>and when it comes to tax i believe australia has one of the world's > > > > highest > > > >>tax > >> > >>>rate, and sydney is way too pricey. > >>> > >>>but what i would like to know is whats the scenario outside, like int > > > > he > > > >>>states, singapore, UK etc. is there a good demand for qualified but > >>>inexperienced IT graduates. would a move abroad be good? > >>> > >>> > >>>Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Jiin-Her hits the nail on the head > >>>> I certainly wouldn't want to make 50K while living in Boston or New > >> > >>York > >> > >>>>City... > >>>>Here's the cost of living for Herndon VA > >>>> > >> > >>http://realestate.yahoo.com/re/neighborhood/search.html?sa=&c=Herndon&s=VA&z= > >> > >>>>Cost of living (taxes, expenses, insurance, etc...) can change from > > > > town > > > >>>>to town even. As the add says you need to move to Herndon VA to live > > > > on > > > >>>>that 50K. ;) > >>>> > >>>>-R^3 > >>>> > >>>>On Wed, 4 Feb 2004, Jiin-Her Lu wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Depends on when, where, and what is your citizenship. 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