On 03/15/2004 03:00 PM David Friedman wrote:
I should have explained this a bit better. Each level is like a company or
organization. It has it's own group of parties to maintain but can be
managed by one or more managers. The managers share group responsibility.
Only the user at the very bottom rung has an interface which only that user
can use.

What do you mean by that last sentence? Why can't a manager use that interface too? Surely it depends on roles?


>Everyone above it is some sort of manager for maintaining there
shared group (separate from other resellers, or separate from other).

admin--- reseller1 (admin1, admin2, admin3) -- customer1
                                              customer2
                                              customer3
         reseller2 (admin4) - customer4
                              customer5
         reseller3 (admin5, admin6) - customer6
         reseller7 (admin7, admin8, admin9) - customer7
                                              customer8

In the above tree, the customer(s) have a group of their own admins plus
individual employees (who have no shared responsibilities).

I know this sounds like I should use pow2acl but it doesn't seem to have
anything for replacing the Principal so I could become a user, nor does it
appear to have anything to let me hook SSLext into it to ensure good
http/https lock-downs.

Do you have any hints/suggestions for a better methodology/way?

Regards,
David

-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 4:25 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: security framework!!!


Right, I get it. So you not only want the higher level user to take on the lower level user's role, you want them to have their complete ID or username etc.

Tricky!

I think alot depends on what kind of use you have for the user info. Is
it purely roles that are important here? Or is there ownership too? I
mean, one user can see his / her stuff, which is not accessible to
another user of equal level?

On 03/15/2004 03:39 AM David Friedman wrote:

Jason,

They might need to go into the account underneath them to fix something

(if


they are asked) and won't know the password (encrypted).  The admin might
need to fix something for a reseller's client made us look into (admin ->
reseller -> client -> manager -> employee).  I've had a few projects where
someone 2 levels under asks for help from the level immediately above

them.


Then it goes up one and up again back to me.  Rather than make interfaces
for everyone for everything, I prefer the idea of "su'ing" into the

account


to fix something.  So, I might have to 'become' the reseller (I'm the
admin), then become a client, then become a manager then become an

employee


to look at or fix something for them.

Regards,
David

-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Lea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 6:49 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: security framework!!!


David Friedman wrote:




I've also been looking into security frameworks and the only solutions

I've


really found are:

1. Standard (container) JAAS
2. SecurityFilter http://securityfilter.sourceforge.net
3. Pow2ACL http://pow2acl.sourceforge.net/

I was hoping, at some point, to use an SSL switching feature such as

SSLext.



From my research, Pow2ACL and SecurityFilter won't work that way.
SecurityFilter has a note that certain 'elements' could be used for it but
the current code makes no use of them in that manner.  As for Pow2ACL, I
didn't find anything suggesting how to use it in that way either.

My bigger problem is my scenario, which no one supports. I'd like to

allow


manager accounts to become one of if it's sub-accounts.  My system would
support at least 5 levels where 4 could 'drill down' and back up again:
admin, reseller, client, manager, employee (bottom feeder, no managerial
tools and no popping into their accounts).  Since there is no easily way

to



Trying to figure out what you are asking here can you give an example?

If you have the following:
1. User Manfred is a manager
2. User Emily is an Employee
3. Emily is an employee under Manfred

Are you saying that Manfred can become Emily and perform certain
tasks/actions?  Then Manfred would return to be Manfred the manager?



push/pop or even set (then I could use my own internal stack) a
UserPrincipal object, I'm thinking of using something a bit like
SecurityFilter: wrap the request object with a subclass of
HttpServeletRequestWrapper and add my own push/pop/set/get/count
UserPrincipal object(s).  Then, I could hook the login procedure with
container methods (JAAS, i.e. a web browser login/password pop-up) and

still



be able to (when I'm ready) use SSLext or something like it for the
HTTP/HTTPS switching.

Regards,
David

-----Original Message-----
From: Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 6:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: security framework!!!


I'm developing a web application with struts.I had a problem for support security at jsp pages level for different roles.I send an email and

recived


2 response to solve my problem:
1.      with HTML tags.
2.      2.with define role in tiles definition
but I'm searching for a good framework that be compatibled with struts
framework and support the security for different roles at page levels.
I mean for example if I have a jsp page with tow textfields and a submit
deponds on user's role at the system,one user just can see one of the
textfield and submit buttom and another user can see both of the textfield
and submit buttom.
Can you suggest a good framework for me.
regards


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