> On 8 Oct 2021, at 15:53, Linus Torvalds <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 11:50 AM Attilla de Groot via subsurface
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Logging:
>> - Subsurface doesn’t understand the concept of a travel gas that well (it 
>> switches with the back gas).
> 
> Heh. That example dive looks _very_ different from anything I ever did
> in Bonaire.

My dives this week are quite exceptional indeed. Next week I’ll just do some 
recreational and looking at fish. :-P

> 
> But your data clearly has
> 
>  <cylinder size='22.2 l' workpressure='232.0 bar' description='D12
> 232 bar' o2='14.0%' he='49.0%' depth='65.378 m' />
>  <cylinder size='4.1 l' workpressure='206.843 bar' description='AL40'
> start='220.0 bar' end='140.0 bar' depth='103.075 m' />
>  <cylinder size='5.547 l' workpressure='206.843 bar'
> description='AL40' o2='51.0%' start='200.0 bar' end='140.0 bar'
> depth='21.021 m' />
>  <cylinder size='5.547 l' workpressure='206.843 bar'
> description='AL40' o2='79.0%' start='175.0 bar' end='90.0 bar'
> depth='10.016 m' />
> 
>  <event time='0:02 min' type='25' flags='1' name='gaschange'
> cylinder='0' o2='14.0%' he='49.0%' />
>  <event time='3:26 min' type='25' flags='2' name='gaschange' cylinder='1' />
>  <event time='30:32 min' type='25' flags='3' name='gaschange'
> cylinder='2' o2='51.0%' />
>  <event time='44:40 min' type='25' flags='4' name='gaschange'
> cylinder='3' o2='79.0%' />
> 
> which I agree is insane - you are going down to 82m and subsurface
> thinks you're breathing air at the deepest point (and breathing that
> hypoxic 49% He at the beginning shallow part).
> 
> That would be unhealthy and bad if real. I agree that clearly the two
> first gases are switched.
> 
> However, subsurface thinks that because those are the gas switch events we 
> got.

Is it possible to manually change this to how it should be (given that you’re 
explaining it must be a download/libdivecomputer issue)? I messed around with 
it a bit, but I don’t really understand the relation between the cylinders and 
gas changes in the XML. I haven’t been able to make it any better unfortunately.


> And I have to say, when I tell subsurface to use the same 55/85
> Buehlmann settings that your dive computer reports it is using, the
> deco that subsurface calculates isn't actually that far off from what
> your Teric calculated. In fact, if anything, your Teric gave _more_
> deco at the end.
> 
> That said, that can't be real, and I suspect the issue is that I only
> see the one dive, and you presumably had some pre-existing deco
> loading, and then subsurface getting the gases wrong just happens to
> result in a fairly similar deco profile.

That is fine, should I see it again sometime, I’ll bring it up separately.

> I'll think about this a bit more to see if I can come up with
> something, but I hope I have explained why it can be hard due to
> libdivecomputer explicitly making it hard.

Thank you, much appreciated.


— Attilla
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