Here's a relevant discussion regarding adoption Gitter I started about 11 months ago:
https://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2018-February/055061.html Here are other relevant discussions: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2017-September/054825.html and here: https://github.com/hylang/hy/issues/1357#issuecomment-331543249 Regards Sumit Srivastava On Fri, 18 Jan 2019, 7:08 pm Sumit Srivastava, <sumitsrisu...@gmail.com> wrote: > +1 for Gitter over IRC given the recent spam tackling measures taken by > freenode. > > Other advantages have already been mentioned, I raised this concern over > mailing list too. > > It's high time we consider a switch. > > Regards > Sumit Srivastava > > On Fri, 18 Jan 2019, 5:58 pm Vipul Gupta, <vipulgupta2...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I do agree with Rahul over the change on communication mediums. This >> discussion rose a bit at the start of GSoC 2018 as well, with many fellow >> contributors who wanted to apply to Sugar Labs didn't because they could >> get a response. And yes, its absolutely okay for a time to have no people >> in the room to help. But with Gitter's ability to hold conversations, have >> plugins for GitHub and make rooms. We should definitely give it a shot to >> see how it pays off in the long run. >> >> The learning curve with IRC does instill a thing of learning or two among >> all of us. I for one asked my questions on IRC after thoroughly searching >> the web and all the resources I have. Since I always knew the importance >> of "Software is free. Time is not." Things taking time to figure out, is >> good. But not when its spent on communication mediums by prospective >> contributors. They just want to start contributing. And fast. I think >> Gitter can help here. >> >> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 1:48 PM Rahul Bothra <rrbot...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I am proposing a change in the communication medium from IRC to Gitter. >>> I've made a Gitter Community at https://gitter.im/Sugar-Labs, for >>> people to try it out. In case people don't like the change, we can shut it >>> down and stick to IRC. >>> >>> Following are my reasons for the change; >>> >>> New users can't see the past conversations, which is useful at times >>> >>> Many active contributors don't run an all time online instance, >>> and can't read unresolved doubts asked when they were offline >>> >>> If a new user doesn't get a response for some time, he tends to >>> quit IRC (observation) and it's difficult to look him up and resolve >>> his query. This *might *lead to contributors thinking that the org is i >>> nactive >>> >>> Since we are diverse, we can use different channels for each; >>> Sugar, Sugarizer, Music Blocks, Design, Website. >>> This will make discussions more organised and easy to look up >>> Implementing this on IRC could increase problems of inactivity >>> even more. >>> >>> D. Joe gave a reason[1] against the switch that every other chat >>> systems has their own advantages. >>> I don't mind using any chat system which can curb these issues. >>> >>> I am now comfortable in using IRC because: >>> - I *somewhat* understood how it works, but it took time to figure out >>> - I now know at what time might a contributor come online, >>> but it took time to figure out >>> - I now know which contributor works on what, so I can ask via mail, >>> if IRC doesn't help, but it took time to figure out >>> >>> There are obvious workarounds for all these, but then it's better if new >>> contributors devote 'time to figure out' code instead ;-) >>> >>> [1]: >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2018-February/055064.html >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sugar-devel mailing list >>> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >>> >> >> >> -- >> Cordially, >> Vipul Gupta >> Mixster <https://mixstersite.wordpress.com/> | Github >> <https://github.com/vipulgupta2048> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sugar-devel mailing list >> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >> >
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