Here's a relevant discussion regarding adoption Gitter I started about 11 months ago:
https://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2018-February/055061.html Here are other relevant discussions: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2017-September/054825.html and here: https://github.com/hylang/hy/issues/1357#issuecomment-331543249 I'd still prefer Gitter, having used most alternatives to IRC, and the IRC itself. Regards Sumit Srivastava On Fri, 18 Jan 2019, 5:58 pm Vipul Gupta, <vipulgupta2...@gmail.com> wrote: > I do agree with Rahul over the change on communication mediums. This > discussion rose a bit at the start of GSoC 2018 as well, with many fellow > contributors who wanted to apply to Sugar Labs didn't because they could > get a response. And yes, its absolutely okay for a time to have no people > in the room to help. But with Gitter's ability to hold conversations, have > plugins for GitHub and make rooms. We should definitely give it a shot to > see how it pays off in the long run. > > The learning curve with IRC does instill a thing of learning or two among > all of us. I for one asked my questions on IRC after thoroughly searching > the web and all the resources I have. Since I always knew the importance > of "Software is free. Time is not." Things taking time to figure out, is > good. But not when its spent on communication mediums by prospective > contributors. They just want to start contributing. And fast. I think > Gitter can help here. > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 1:48 PM Rahul Bothra <rrbot...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I am proposing a change in the communication medium from IRC to Gitter. >> I've made a Gitter Community at https://gitter.im/Sugar-Labs, for people >> to try it out. In case people don't like the change, we can shut it down >> and stick to IRC. >> >> Following are my reasons for the change; >> >> New users can't see the past conversations, which is useful at times >> >> Many active contributors don't run an all time online instance, >> and can't read unresolved doubts asked when they were offline >> >> If a new user doesn't get a response for some time, he tends to >> quit IRC (observation) and it's difficult to look him up and resolve >> his query. This *might *lead to contributors thinking that the org is i >> nactive >> >> Since we are diverse, we can use different channels for each; >> Sugar, Sugarizer, Music Blocks, Design, Website. >> This will make discussions more organised and easy to look up >> Implementing this on IRC could increase problems of inactivity >> even more. >> >> D. Joe gave a reason[1] against the switch that every other chat >> systems has their own advantages. >> I don't mind using any chat system which can curb these issues. >> >> I am now comfortable in using IRC because: >> - I *somewhat* understood how it works, but it took time to figure out >> - I now know at what time might a contributor come online, >> but it took time to figure out >> - I now know which contributor works on what, so I can ask via mail, >> if IRC doesn't help, but it took time to figure out >> >> There are obvious workarounds for all these, but then it's better if new >> contributors devote 'time to figure out' code instead ;-) >> >> [1]: >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2018-February/055064.html >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sugar-devel mailing list >> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >> > > > -- > Cordially, > Vipul Gupta > Mixster <https://mixstersite.wordpress.com/> | Github > <https://github.com/vipulgupta2048> > _______________________________________________ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >
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