Hello,
this new nightly snapshots seems to have fixed the problem for vehicles on
the top lane but for vehicles in the middle lane the problem still remains.
So the paradox you mentioned is still there.
many thanks,
Pavlos
2014-05-27 9:00 GMT+03:00 Jakob Erdmann <[email protected]>:
> Hello,
> the workaround should no longer be needed because
> http://sumo-sim.org/trac.wsgi/ticket/1311 was fixed yesterday.
> So try 533 and lanechange.overtake-right
> regards,
> Jakob
>
>
> 2014-05-26 18:07 GMT+02:00 Pavlos Basaras <[email protected]>:
>
> Ok,
>>
>> when we use for example the middle lane we can either move to the bottom
>> lane or to the upper lane. But the paradox mentioned in the reference
>> happens when we have identical conditions i.e equal neighboring lane
>> conditions ? in terms of speed and postion of the following vehicles ? If
>> this is the case then this will rarely occur in my simulation. Can i
>> proceed this way?
>>
>> Also should i change the value you mentioned (KEEP_RIGHT_ACCEPTANCE) and
>> use lane change mode 533 ?
>>
>> many thanks,
>> Pavlos
>>
>>
>> 2014-05-26 15:32 GMT+03:00 Jakob Erdmann <[email protected]>:
>>
>> No,
>>> it sets the threshold for the "move right if you can"-rule so that this
>>> rule is never triggered.
>>> However, there may be other problems with that solution:
>>> http://sumo-sim.org/trac.wsgi/ticket/1312
>>>
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Jakob
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-05-26 14:04 GMT+02:00 Pavlos Basaras <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>> Thanks again,
>>>>
>>>> Wouldn't this affect the overall traffic? and prompt all vehicles to
>>>> move to the most right lane regardless of a need to change a lane ( speed
>>>> gain cooperative or strategic ) ?
>>>>
>>>> If i understand this behavior correctly this will create a modified
>>>> Asymetric driving behavior. (use both lanes for overtaking but prefer the
>>>> most right lane).
>>>>
>>>> best,
>>>> Pavlos
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-05-26 14:44 GMT+03:00 Jakob Erdmann <[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>> as a workaround you can set constant KEEP_RIGHT_ACCEPTANCE to a very
>>>>> large value (i.e. 10^20) to get a similar effect to mode 533 without
>>>>> triggering the bug
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-05-26 13:31 GMT+02:00 Jakob Erdmann <[email protected]>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> there appears to be a bug which prevents lane changing for speed-gain
>>>>>> if mode 533 is used. This effectively prevents vehicles from overtake on
>>>>>> the right unless the change is requested specifically via TraCI.
>>>>>> see http://sumo-sim.org/trac.wsgi/ticket/1311
>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>> Jakob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2014-05-26 12:41 GMT+02:00 Pavlos Basaras <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you very much for your answer,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> when i use 533 mode then the traffic i get is as shown in the
>>>>>>> attached images, vehicles line up and do not move to the bottom lane.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> first vehicle in the front is not breaking but all the others do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> best,
>>>>>>> Pavlos
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: Ενσωματωμένη εικόνα 1]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: Ενσωματωμένη εικόνα 2]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2014-05-26 13:25 GMT+03:00 Jakob Erdmann <[email protected]
>>>>>>> >:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>> option 1000010101 is not in conflict with
>>>>>>>> <lanechange.overtake-right value="true"/> as it only concerns a
>>>>>>>> particular
>>>>>>>> code of conduct on german roads. You should see overtaking on boths
>>>>>>>> sides
>>>>>>>> when setting that lane change mode and using the overtake-right option.
>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>> Jakob
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PS: the documentation at
>>>>>>>> http://sumo-sim.org/userdoc<http://sumo-sim.org/userdoc/TraCI/Change_Vehicle_State.html>is
>>>>>>>> only updated at release time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2014-05-23 12:17 GMT+02:00 Pavlos Basaras <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i am using the nightly snapshot for the sumo version in order to
>>>>>>>>> have the
>>>>>>>>> option of overtaking from the right. According to
>>>>>>>>> http://sumo-sim.org/wiki/TraCI/Change_Vehicle_State, the default
>>>>>>>>> configuration of the lane change mode is 597 which allows all lane
>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>> options. (This default explanation is not mentioned in
>>>>>>>>> http://sumo-sim.org/userdoc/TraCI/Change_Vehicle_State.html ).
>>>>>>>>> How can i
>>>>>>>>> use a mode of lane change with <lanechange.overtake-right
>>>>>>>>> value="true"/>
>>>>>>>>> but with deactivated the option obligation to move to the right
>>>>>>>>> (bit7,
>>>>>>>>> bit6) ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In other words, i don't want vehicles to move to the most right
>>>>>>>>> lane if
>>>>>>>>> they do not perform a cooperative, strategic or speed gain
>>>>>>>>> decision but i
>>>>>>>>> want: <lanechange.overtake-right value="true"/>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To my version i think the option 1000010101 (533) is in conflict
>>>>>>>>> with <lanechange.overtake-right value="true"/> or i am
>>>>>>>>> missunderstading its
>>>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Pavlos
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