On 9/1/97 Tom McHugh wrote:

>Before setting an outdoor dial pedestal, I would like to get
>an assortment of opinion as to the effects of hard freezes
>on dial alignment. I do not know any diallists locally, here
>in Fort Fairfield, ME, to contact directly, so I thought maybe
>someone on the List has some ideas about frost heave on
>dials.
>
>For what its worth, with regard to other structures, local
>opinion is at some variance.  Some people say that a secure
>foundation must go down 8 feet to below the frost line, and
>others say that if the ground on which something is set is
>of the same moisture content as adjacent ground, that one
>spot will not suffer more from frost heaving than any other.
>
>Chances are that I'll just build one on the surface and see
>what happens this winter.  By the way, temperatures here,
>in January, get down to 40 below zero.
>
>Opinions of others would be greatly appreciated.


Hi Tom,

Here in southeast Vermont, where the winter temps don't go much lower than
-20 F, we figure that for stability one puts in a foundation which goes
below the frost line, which varies from about 4 to 6 feet below grade
level, depending upon whether or not there is undisturbed snow cover.  I
built a log cabin (chop by chop, not prefab) almost 40 years ago with a
foundation of rocks set on the surface, and it has served just fine -
rising a couple of inches in the winter and falling back in the spring.
But I notice that cemetery headstones react to freezing and thawing over
time by tilting this way and that.

Myself, for a personal dial pedestal I'd build on the surface, and, when
necessary, do a quick springtime leveling.  If that turned out to be too
tedious, I'd set a concrete pier below the frost line.

Let us know how it turns out.

Mac Oglesby


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