Dear all,

In a previous submission I mentioned that I thought submissions should be
original owing to the collections of mottos readily available.  Quoting
them would be too easy!

It was not my intention that someone should sit down and check each entry
for originality against a list of known dial verse!  Rather, I thought that
people should be encouraged to engage in the creative process and spend
some time thinking something up.  If it turns out that someone else has
already got the same verse down on paper I really don't care.  It's the act
of applying one's mind that I'm interested in and think should be rewarded.

As the discussion has developed, I'm increasingly of the opinion that the
competitive element initially envisaged is going to be divisive and a bad
thing for the list.  The language discussion alone would seem to prove this
to be the case.  Whilst the idea of publishing all entries and asking
people to vote for their top ten is appealing as a way to judge entries, it
doesn't get around the problem of entries submitted in unfamiliar
languages.  It would also be complicated and may well not produce one
single winner.  

It has been suggested to allow entries in all languages if they have an
accompanying translation, but so much can be lost in translation that it
would seem to be very unfair to judge translations alongside native
English.

A luck dip prize draw solution is perhaps less rewarding of particular
talent, but at least it is simple and encourages everyone to have a go,
which is surely the whole point.  It also gets over a little problem I'd
noticed, which my own submission may fall fowl of, regarding sticking to
the 5-7-5 syllabuls of the haiku form.

A Man grows wrinkled
Passing hours show on his face
A Dial - Immortal

works if you pronounce Hours like *ours*, but not if you choose to say *ow
ers* which is then 2 syllabuls!
Other submissions have middle lines not of 7 syllabuls - indeed, 4-6-4 or
4-8-4 is easier to compose.

The lucky dip solution would at least mean that if the winning entry were
not strictly by *the rules*, no-one need feel hard done by. 

Finally, the motto *Life sucks and then you die.* must surely be a world
beater!  I'll start working on the dial design right away - perhaps a
gnomon of a shotgun with two smoking barrels ;-)

David Higgon
London

P.S. To Bill Maddux - ad infinitum might well be hyperbole under pressure,
but watch out in case I start talking of the semi-infinite - it exists
(trust me, I'm a mathematician!).

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