You got it...

Luke

Arthur Carlson wrote:

> I wrote:
>
> > > ...  I think
> > > the processes which change the eccentricity and obliquity of the
> > > Earth's orbit work on a much slower time scale than the precession of
> > > the equinoxes, so that we can still use the same Equation of Time
> > > 13,000 years from now.  Does anybody know for sure about this?
>
> Luke Coletti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied:
>
> >         You are right regarding the relative small changes in the values of
> > Obliquity and Eccentricity over the period of a precession cycle. However, 
> > it
> > is the phase relationship of the two effects and not their values that play 
> > the
> > dominant role in the variation of the Equation of Time over this period. The
> > Analemma will indeed look considerably different 13,000 years from now.
>
> My mistake.  The magnitude of the obliquity and eccentricity change
> very, very slowly, but the phase is determined by the precession of
> the perihelion (also very, very slow) and the precession of the
> equinoxes, with the 25,860 year period we are discussing here.
> Putting it another way, dialists (not only those using astrolabes) do
> care about the stars because they care about the perihelion, which is
> fixed relative to the stars.
>
> The Millennium Clock will either need to calculate the changing
> Equation of Time, or else average its sighting of the sun over several
> years, which I presume to be more difficult.  I would anyway rather
> see the clock designed for the astronomically significant cycle of
> 25,860 years than for a numerological cycle of 10,000 years.  If the
> mechanism of the clock inherently contains the precession period, that
> is one more reason to make the display correspond.  The 10,000 time
> frame was chosen, among other reasons, because that is the length of
> time since the development of agriculture and technology.  On the
> other hand, there were some damn good painters active 25,860 years
> ago.
>
> Art Carlson


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