Mark, there is an individual @zianet.com who posted the following subjects:

faux granite dial
cycloid polar dial
helical gnomon
plasma cutter

to this list in 1999.

Hopefully the individual will help clarify the situation for us this week so
that we can get to the source of this destructive assault on a super list that
we all respect so much. I regard this as an assault not only on the named
victim, but on all of us, including me.

Yes it is unfortunate that we have to take the time to root this stuff out.
But for the sake of the integrity of the list, methinks it is up to us to do
so.  Thank you for contributing your expertise to the solution.

Cheers,
t



Mark Gingrich wrote:

> Richard Langley wrote:
>
> > Is this really from Fernando?  Doesn't sound like it.  Note that the
> > posting did not origniate from his usual e-mail address but from Hot
> > Mail.  Do we have a Fernando imposter?
>
> Yes, Richard, that rude note is obviously from an imposter.  The *real*
> Fernando Cabral has always sent his missives from the e-mail address
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; the phony Fernando -- obviously a spineless
> troublemaker -- is posting from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Forgeries such as this are a rampant problem on the 'Net today, especially
> with the rise of "throwaway" e-mail accounts from services like Hotmail.com.
> Fortunately, these services have finally begun to supply hints in their
> e-mail headers as to the true sources of the messages.
>
> For example, in the posting from our phony Fernando, one of the e-mail
> headers shows the sender's originating IP address:
>
>    X-Originating-Ip: [206.206.120.30] .
>
> Using the "nslookup" service, this IP address corresponds to the following
> server/ISP:
>
>    sc021.zianet.com .
>
> Now, by invoking Unix's "whois" command, we find that zianet.com is located
> in New Mexico, USA:
>
>    Registrant:
>    ZiaNet, Inc. (ZIANET-DOM)
>       P.O. Box 8368
>       Las Cruces, New Mexico 88006
>       USA
>
> Finally, when I send an e-mail to the sundial list server at
>
>    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> containing just the following two-line message in the body of the e-mail:
>
>   who sundial
>   end
>
> ... I get the current list -- 335 subscribers in all -- of sundial mailing
> list participants.  And wouldn't you know it?  There is just *one* person
> on that roster with an e-mail address at zianet.com.
>
> Yes, I know that this is insufficient evidence to convict in a court of
> law, but given that there are only three-hundred-something participants
> in this forum from the entire world, what are the odds that we would have
> *two* different subscribers to this mailing list from the same small-time
> ISP serving the sparsely populated southwest desert region of the USA?
> Or is it just far more likely that these two individuals at zianet.com
> are actually one and the same?
>
> My apologies to the good folks on the sundial mailing list for having
> to put up with the above off-topic administrivia.  But knowing how to
> determine an e-mail forgery is, sadly, becoming a necessary skill in
> today's e-world.  I now consider it a must-have tool in one's "baloney
> detection kit."
>
> ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~
>   Mark Gingrich      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      San Leandro, California

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