Hello John,

Yes, it will work.
In general a style in any direction may be used.
Such a style is perpendicular to some plane and it measures the azimuth of
that plane. ( which is not the sundial's plane )
So you may call it an azimuthal dial, however I don't know if this name is
the best.
Gianni Ferrari uses the name monofilar dial.

Happy dialling, Fer.

Fer J. de Vries
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http://www.iae.nl/users/ferdv/
Eindhoven, Netherlands
lat.  51:30 N      long.  5:30 E

----- Original Message -----
From: John Carmichael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 7:06 PM
Subject: Singleton's azimuthal


> Hi Mac:
>
> you wrote:
> >Hi John,
> >
> >As I was walking my exercise miles this morning, I found myself
> >wondering why you are thinking of doing an azimuthal dial at all,
> >given the problems of dealing with either a short shadow or a very
> >long vertical post gnomon.  Why not follow John Singleton's notion
> >(p. 51, BSS Journal for Feb 2000) and use your normal taut wire pole
> >style?
> >
> >Have I missed something in the discussion?
>
> Maybe we all have.  I think John Singleton's azimuthal will not work
(except
> at noon, sunrise and sunset).  I know this is a rather bold statement to
> make, but I think there is a general misconception that azimuthal dials
can
> work with either a vertical gnomon or a polar axis gnomon as was
originally
> suggested in an earlier discussion.  This has always bothered me because
it
> seemed impossible.  If a polar axis works, then it would certainly solve
the
> gnomon height problem.
>
> Rather than speculate, I did a simple experiment. Using a Spin drawing of
an
> azimuthal for my location and an icepick for the gnomon, I quickly found
out
> that the dial worked correctly when the icepick was vertical and became
> progressively worse as I tilted it towards the celestial pole.
>
> Now, I wonder what the theorists will say about this. I wish John
Singleton
> had an e-mail, because I too wonder if I'm missing something.  But since
his
> dial is made for London, hopefully someone there will duplicate my
> experiment using the actual drawing in the BSS journal and let us know the
> results.
>
> John Carmichael
>
> p.s Sorry I already broke my promiss not to discuss azimuthal dials any
> more, but I couldn't resist Mac's question!
>
>

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