Hello Helmut,

Attached are graphs showing the typical error with the seasonal sunrise
marker. As noted before, the error is periodic, zero at the solstices and
equinox and at a maximum in between. The symmetrical, sinusoidal nature of
the curves is even more pronounced when more points are added to the graph.
I chose to determine the marker point at the solstice, when the error is
zero. On the equinox when the error is also zero, the marker distance cannot
be determined as the azimuth is due east west like the axis. I believe that
choosing some other date would just cause an offset and not reduce the
error.

The two graphs show the effect of latitude. The shape of the curves is
identical. The absolute error increases from 3.4 cm at 38.6 latitude to 8 cm
at 51 Latitude while the zodiac dimension goes down from 156 cm to 123 cm.
In my opinion, the error is acceptable at the lower latitudes typical of the
USA but a problem for northern Europe and Canada. At your latitude, 47.24,
the maximum error is 6.3 cm with a 123 cm zodiac dimension. This zodiac
dimension that I have quoted is from the centre to the solstice, half the
total. From solstice to solstice the zodiac is twice that or 2.46 meters on
a 9 meter dial (4.5 m semi major axis).

This error analysis is based on fixing the marker distance based on the
solstice date and sunrise azimuth. With the marker distance fixed, the
zodiac distance is calculated from the sunrise azimuth for other dates and
solar declinations. Then the difference is determined between the zodiac
distances calculated from the azimuth compared to those for the dial layout.
The differences are plotted against the date as a percent of the zodiac
distance from the centre to the solstice. This technique is arbitrary but it
does give a good indication of how much error is introduced by the linear
approximation of a fixed sunrise marker.

Roger Bailey
Walking Shadow Designs
N 51  W 115

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Sent: January 12, 2002 5:59 AM
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Subject: Re: Seasonal Sunrise Marker


Hello Fer, hello Roger,
your ideas on seasonal sunrise markers are very interesting. After having
compared your constructions I have 2 questions:
1. Fer, where can I find the proof, that your construction ist exact?
2. Roger, I think the maximal error in your "linear approximation" would be
a bit smaller, if you don't use the summer solstice for fixing the
intersection point (you called this point "Sunrise" in your attached
pdf-file) on the horizontal axis, but a day with smaller declination, may be
half a month later or so. Is that correct? It looks so, when the points of
the dates in Fer's construction are conected with the corelating points of
sunset. Does anybody know which day would be the best? I suppose it could
depend on the latitude.
Thanks
Helmut

Helmut Sonderegger, A-6800 Feldkirch
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