Hello Anselmo,

The times of sunrise and sunset can be easily determined on a vertical
declining dial that has declination lines. The horizontal line from the base
of the gnomon is the horizon line. The intersection of the declination line
and the horizon line shows the time of sunrise or set. This is of limited
use on south facing dials as the scale of the gnomon and resulting
declination lines is usually to great to show much more than the winter
solstice. Declining dials, east  for sunrise and west for sunset show the
times  well. You also get a sense of the azimuth as this is the line from
the intersection point through the tip of the gnomon to the distant horizon.
This may seem obvious but it is not. The vertical declining dial on my house
shows hour lines above the horizon line. I did not realize the problem until
I checked the design using Fir's program. It clearly showed the horizon line
and sunset times.

I do not know if this answers your question. It addresses sunrise and sunset
times but does not look at insolation times, how long the sun is on the
dial.

Roger Bailey
Walking Shadow Designs
N 51  W 115

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Sent: January 12, 2002 3:56 PM
To: Sundial, Mailinglist; fer j. de vries
Subject: Re: Seasonal Sunrise Marker


Fer,

I have read in Rafael Soler Gaya's book that you can
rotate these circles (or the approximation by straight lines) you have drawn
so that
they can tell you as well the sunrise and sunset hours for any vertical
declining dial...
The problem he says that incidentally in a very brief paragraph and perhaps
I
misunderstood his words. Do you know if that is true?

Cheers,


Anselmo

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