Hello Jack:

Sometimes I really wish artisans Harriet James and Ben Jones, were members
of Sundial List. Both live in England and both craft fabulous slate
sundials. (Ben just gave a talk at the BSS conference on his stone carving
techniques.  I'd love to get a copy of it.) Slate is very big over there.
They have good quarries.  Both Harriet and Ben carve their slate sundials
the old-fashioned way, with hammer and and an array of chisels.  Typically
though, many slate sundials are scratched or scribed using the technique you
mention, probably because scribing is a lot easier than chiseling.  Of
course, a scribed sundial face has carvings that are more shallow and less
prominent than a chiseled face. Over many many years  a scribed sundial will
lose its markings faster than a chiseled one.  Marble and other sandstones
can be scribed or chiseled easier than slate because they are softer stones.

If you want to see how well marble, slate and granite weather, visit your
local  cemetery and look at the dates on the headstones.  You can really see
the effects of weathering, especially in Europe where the cemeteries are
older.  You'd be surprised to see how poorly granite weathers. Marble
weathering can be severe in acid rain areas and areas that freeze.  Slate
seems to be the most durable of all. It's pores are so small that water
can't seep in.

Cutting with diamond burrs works very well on marble, limestone, sandstone,
and flagstone.  It works on granite, but is more difficult to cut. I haven't
tried it on slate because there is none available here. If you could send me
a tiny sample of slate, I'll try it.

John

John L. Carmichael Jr.
Sundial Sculptures
925 E. Foothills Dr.
Tucson Arizona 85718
USA

Tel: 520-696-1709
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Website: <http://www.sundialsculptures.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Aubert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 7:39 AM
Subject: Carmicheal technique for making stone dials


> Having returned from the NASS conference in Tuscon and having been dazzled
> by the beauty and techniques John demonstrated for working with sandstone,
> I am energized to attempt something similar using locally available
> materials.
>
> My neighborhood stone supply place sells slate and white/black/green
> marble.  I know slate is very easy to work with, having made a slate dial
> once by simply scribing the lines and numbers with some home-made hardened
> steel tools and a straightedge.  Marble should also be quite easy to
carve,
> but I wonder how durable an exposed marble horizontal surface would be
> given acid rain and so forth.  I also wonder if it would be feasible to
use
> John's technique (diamond cutting tools with water drip) to work on
> granite, which is quite a bit harder.  I suspect it might be feasible to
> carve the lines, but perhaps not to polish by hand.
>
> I wonder if John or any of the other list members have any ideas about the
> suitability of different types of stone.
>
> Jack
>
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