John and Dialists,

You and other folk are probably correct, I was just indicating that the surface 
chemistry  of the worked stone may be different that in unworked areas and that 
this 
may be part of the cause of differential erosion by blowing sand.  Yes, the 
reference I quoted from was for igneous rocks, not sedimentary.

Another interesting ( at least to me ) idea is in the area of cast stone.  I 
don't 
mean various attempts to mimic stone, but actual stone.  In a controversial 
book by 
Joseph Davidovits titled "the pyramids, an enigma solved"  he states that 
ancient 
Egyptian technology knew how to actually cast many of the real stones, not 
concrete 
or plaster.  He gives the recipies for a couple and indicates that he has 
patented 
and sells some of the formulae and casting materials for a number of others.  
If 
this actually works ( and trying a couple of his formulae, it seemed to work ) 
we 
might be able to cast stone in forms identical to natural ones, only already 
shaped 
as we wish for Sundial purposes.  Such cast stone might well be better made for 
the 
purposes of lasting through years of exposure.  Has anyone else explored this 
area?

Edley McKnight

From:                   "John Carmichael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:                     <[email protected]>
Subject:                Re: Eroded rock
Date sent:              Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:28:57 -0700
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Sandstone dust has a very salty taste.

Does that mean I should dip my stone blanks in acid before I engrave them
to protect them from further erosion? A scary thought!

When stone masons lay flagstone flooring, they often clean the unwanted
calcium carbonate deposits off the stone using dilute sulfuric acid and a
scrub brush.  But I have always been afraid to use H2SO4 on my stones,
fearing that it might damage the stone internally or cause the sedimentary
stone layers to separate.  I worry that this possible damage might take
years to show itself.  (But I observed no immediate damage to the stone
when I experimented with H2SO4, and it did do a very good job of cleaning
the stone.)

So you also have to be a chemist to make sundials, huh?

John

John L. Carmichael Jr.
Sundial Sculptures
925 E. Foothills Dr.
Tucson Arizona 85718
USA

Tel: 520-696-1709
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Edley McKnight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: Eroded rock


> Hi Dialists,
>
> Awhile back, researching machining on vitreous ceramics, I came upon the
statement
> that most rock/ceramic surfaces have a much lowered surface strength
> when
the
> surface was alkaline and a much greater strength when acidic.  (It was
> in
a NASA
> report, but I don't remember the number ) Experiments showed that indeed
drilling
> speed was up to 7 times faster on alumina ceramics while in a solution
> of
a mild
> base such as borax than on a neutral surface.  A mild acidic solution
> such
as boric
> acid doubled the time of drilling.  Shear testing and microcrack
examination showed
> that the acid surface actually was both stronger and healed many
microcracks.  Even
> mild acetic acid made a great degree of difference.
> Shaping with sand-blasting obeyed a simular effect.  i.e. The surface
chemistry of
> the etched lines and their surrounds may be acidic enough to hold up to
erosion
> longer.
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Edley McKnight
>
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>


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